@DanH @griffinboy @David-Healey

I've deleted all source folders then used the cmd line prompt

git clone --branch develop --recurse-submodules https://github.com/christophhart/HISE.git

For some reason, its just building a Debug build even when I choose "Release w/ Faust". I noticed that debug file was already there also, did my build even succeed? I cant tell. The debug build works but thats not what I even chose in the first place but thats all that shows in the build folder after 'build succeded'.

Also, I already upgraded to JUCE 8

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How do I switch to 8? JUCE is telling me that its not up to date and that JUCE path is wrong. !

The whole reason im even rebuilding HISE is becase I could never get networks to compile to dll and even after rebuild its still giving me this error...

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😭

@ustk

Yep! A lot of people get caught out with that.
Because it actually sounds pretty close to correct, if you use an allpass on the high band in the way that Hise's examples do.

But rather than getting a notch eaten out of your spectrum, this will cause a little bump instead.

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Which is subtle but it still exists. It's most noticeable when you put two crossovers near the same frequency, you get a dB or more bump in the spectrum.

@ustk Yeah, autosave is a reasonable safety net in the event of a crash.

But these days I'm saving the XML so Claude can see any changes I made. Autosave doesn't solve that because it only autosaves the HIP files, not XML.

I'm happy with my long multi-key press for saving - it feels direct and intentional.

Another 'fun' thing about autosave is, if you launch HISE and don't load an XML - just to to do some experimental work, or paste a snippet from the forum maybe - then HISE will still happily autosave that current throwaway work OVER your existing Autosave_X.hip files for your current project.

With a 1-minute autosave timer, you've lost ALL your autosaved backups within 5 minutes of that throwaway work.

@Lindon do you call .changed?

@David-Healey i'll see if anyone responds and ask them that.

@DOC-T said in synth.playnote:

Claude says your code is sound

Thank goodness! 👶

@Orvillain

Yes, I'm mostly using hardcoded slots myself nowadays rather than scriptnode : )
There seem to be a few bugs still left with modulation and C++ nodes, but once those are ironed out, this is the way!

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But I still make scriptnode nodes for other users who are into that workflow.
And I do think Scriptnode can be good for a fair few things, like when you need a multiband chain:

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@Christoph-Hart

MSBuild version 18.5.4+cb4e32d21 for .NET Framework CopyProtection.cpp Plugin.cpp PresetData.cpp factory.cpp RNBO.cpp BinaryData.cpp include_hi_core.cpp include_hi_core_02.cpp include_hi_core_03.cpp include_hi_core_04.cpp include_hi_core_05.cpp include_hi_dsp_library_01.cpp include_hi_dsp_library_02.cpp include_hi_frontend.cpp include_hi_lac.cpp include_hi_lac_02.cpp include_hi_rlottie.cpp include_hi_rlottie_1.cpp include_hi_rlottie_2.cpp include_hi_rlottie_4.cpp include_hi_rlottie_5.cpp include_hi_rlottie_6.cpp include_hi_rlottie_7.cpp include_hi_rlottie_8.cpp include_hi_rlottie_9.cpp include_hi_rlottie_10.cpp include_hi_rlottie_11.cpp include_hi_rlottie_12.cpp include_hi_rlottie_13.cpp include_hi_rlottie_14.cpp include_hi_rlottie_15.cpp include_hi_rlottie_16.cpp include_hi_rlottie_17.cpp include_hi_rlottie_18.cpp include_hi_rlottie_19.cpp include_hi_rlottie_20.cpp include_hi_rlottie_21.cpp include_hi_rlottie_22.cpp include_hi_rlottie_23.cpp include_hi_rlottie_24.cpp include_hi_rlottie_25.cpp include_hi_rlottie_26.cpp include_hi_rlottie_27.cpp include_hi_rlottie_28.cpp include_hi_rlottie_29.cpp include_hi_rlottie_30.cpp include_hi_rlottie_31.cpp include_hi_rlottie_32.cpp include_hi_rlottie_33.cpp include_hi_rlottie_34.cpp include_hi_rlottie_35.cpp include_hi_scripting_01.cpp include_hi_scripting_02.cpp include_hi_scripting_03.cpp include_hi_scripting_04.cpp include_hi_snex.cpp include_hi_snex_62.cpp include_hi_streaming.cpp include_hi_tools_01.cpp include_hi_tools_02.cpp include_hi_tools_03.cpp include_hi_zstd_1.cpp include_hi_zstd_2.cpp include_hi_zstd_3.cpp include_juce_audio_basics.cpp include_juce_audio_devices.cpp include_juce_audio_formats.cpp include_juce_audio_plugin_client_utils.cpp include_juce_audio_processors.cpp include_juce_audio_processors_headless.cpp include_juce_audio_utils.cpp include_juce_core.cpp include_juce_cryptography.cpp include_juce_data_structures.cpp include_juce_dsp.cpp include_juce_events.cpp include_juce_graphics.cpp include_juce_gui_extra.cpp include_juce_opengl.cpp include_juce_osc.cpp include_juce_product_unlocking.cpp include_melatonin_blur.cpp !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(333,4): error C2872: 'Rectangle': ambiguous symbol [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\10\Include\10.0.26100.0\um\wingdi.h(4639,24): could be 'BOOL Rectangle(HDC,int,int,int,int)' H:\development\HISE\HISE\JUCE\modules\juce_graphics\geometry\juce_Rectangle.h(66,7): or 'juce::Rectangle' H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(333,4): the template instantiation context (the oldest one first) is H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(365,95): see reference to function template instantiation 'juce::Rectangle<float> hise::simple_css::Positioner::slice<hise::simple_css::Positioner::Direction::Top>(const juce::Array<hise::simple_css::Selector,juce::DummyCriticalSection,0> &,float)' being compiled !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(333,14): error C2062: type 'float' unexpected [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(336,33): error C2065: 'copy': undeclared identifier [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(336,16): error C2530: 'toUse': references must be initialized [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(337,37): error C3536: 'toUse': cannot be used before it is initialized [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(346,25): error C2672: 'hise::simple_css::Positioner::RemoveHelpers::slice': no matching overloaded function found [E:\The Audio Programmer\Repositories\cubeatz-hybrid-synth\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project\Binaries\Builds\VisualStudio2026\cubeatz-hybrid-synth-hise-project_SharedCode.vcxproj] (compiling source file '../../../AdditionalSourceCode/nodes/factory.cpp') H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(306,50): could be 'juce::Rectangle<float> hise::simple_css::Positioner::RemoveHelpers::slice(juce::Rectangle<float> &,float)' H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(346,25): Failed to specialize function template 'juce::Rectangle<float> hise::simple_css::Positioner::RemoveHelpers::slice(juce::Rectangle<float> &,float)' H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(346,25): With the following template arguments: H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(346,25): 'D=hise::simple_css::Positioner::Direction::Top' H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(306,33): 'Rectangle': ambiguous symbol H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\simple_css\Renderer.h(306,42): ! syntax error: missing ';' before '<' !Compilation error. Check the compiler output.

This, or something similar to it... has come back in the latest develop, sha: 6446c4ab64ba27c189f5d1ad31ecace25d02a292

I've cleaned my build directory, but still get it.

I'm looking for documents and examples to guide you and I am seeing this is rather poorly documented.

Basically DspNetworks folder works like this:

DspNetworks/Binaries: The compiled DLL. When you compile networks to .dll, HISE is launching and creating a mini-project of just your FX networks, so it contains a .jucer, XCode or VisualStudio file, etc. DLL (Dynamic Link Library) is, to put it crudely, a pre-written and formatted library that contains the DSP code which HISE can load at runtime (for example, load into the HardcodedMasterFx). You can simply delete the entire Binaries folder before compile to DLL for a fresh start (in fact it is a good idea). More info here: https://docs.hise.dev/scriptnode/manual/third_party.html

DspNetworks/CodeLibrary: I don't look here much, but it's usually where a lot of the faust and snex networks are saved to.

DspNetworks/Networks: Where scriptnode networks are saved as .xml. So you can actually look at these in a code editor and see the same structure flow and module settings (it is fairly human readable). This is what is saved and recalled when you are launching networks (it's very similar to how a User Preset works).

DspNetworks/ThirdParty: Mainly for C++ files if you are working that way. I think Snex headers are stashed here as well (I can't remember). You'll also notice HISE will autogenerate headers depending on what you are using, example for Faust.

AdditionalSourceCode/nodes: This is also important. When you go to compile networks you see the menu below. Basically it is autogenerating some headers that are stashed here for when you are ready to compile the entire project. They help link the compiler to the necessary DSP files. You don't really ever need to bother with this folder, but for a completely fresh build, you can just delete the "nodes" folder before compiling the networks to DLL.

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@Lindon

Yeah thats another way to do it!
Basically the same idea.

Except like you noted, the Hise filters (which I think are ports of the stock Juce ones?) are primitive, they cramp in the high end of the spectrum (the filter shape get warped near nyquist). And so that's not very nice to see on the graphs.

Plus, the trouble with analog style filters (if they are actually simulating the hardware topology) is that the cutoff frequency on the knob won't actually line up with the frequency in the real filter, the cutoff frequency on the graph won't really match the real frequency the filter is at internally.

Thanks guys much appreciated

@observantsound said in Usinge the same sample files in two different sampler links them when editing.:

Is this a known bug?

It's by design.

@observantsound It's probably something to do with how the stretching algorithm works. I also noticed your sample is 44.1kHz, 48 might produce better results.

@David-Healey Of course! Silly me.....

@David-Healey so there's no way my server could be faster, especially since it is actually very slow...

@David-Healey yeah that seems more comprehensive, its more or less doing under the hood what Im doing in HISEScript... so both approaches have the advantage of getting a result back for the plugin itself (no matter how the user has set up to run it..)

Thanks for looking and confirming what I'd found.

@dannytaurus It working soo fine, I had to put engine.loadaudiofilesintopool earlier

@ustk Thanks for your hard work!

@Orvillain ill give that a try thanks. I don't have claude code though. I cant afford paid services at the moment