@eschirle Check out the building HISE section of my free bootcamp course, it covers all the details https://audiodevschool.com/courses/hise-bootcamp/

Here I am experimenting with Figma and Webview

The idea is a moving field of hex cells with a lot of parameters.

Main ones are the Cell fracture, Sparks, moving exclusion zones, Hotspots, orange comets, cyan frames that capture a bunch of cells, cell size.

Spectrum is also done via webview.

I am really hoping that Webview matures in Juce/Hise as its a great way to design any intricate moving graphics although at the moment its great for prototyping and I am exploring converting a design into GLSL ? If even possible.
I gather that the current issues are platform compatibility, overall stability and sample accurate response, hopefully this will advance.

HEX GRAIN UI

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HEX GRAIN UI
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HEX GRAIN UI
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HEX GRAIN UI
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HEX GRAIN UI Controller
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HEX GRAIN AD 4:5
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Thank you for helping.

Wow that's amazing good job as always 👍

@dannytaurus said in Latest version of HISE breaks existing presets....:

@Christoph-Hart Here's what 'my' Claude says:

The pattern so far

Since a92a701de (the unified automation base class), every automation actor - host parameter, macro, MIDI automation, UI widget, script, preset restore - is both a reader and a writer of shared values, connected through the dispatch library. The regressions since then have all been the same bug wearing different hats: a listener can't tell an echo of its own write from a real change, so it feeds the value back around the loop. Each fix so far suppresses one specific edge:

633626eeb - gate refreshParameterValue() on enablePluginParameterUpdate, and switch MIDI automation's setAttribute from async to sync notification e1fb54695 - carve the backend macro-to-parameter-slot routing out behind HISE_MACROS_ARE_PLUGIN_PARAMETERS

Alongside the pre-existing guards (recursive, sendToHost per parameter, deferNotifyHostFlag, the exclusive-mode conditionals in loadUserPresetInternal()), that's now seven or so overlapping mechanisms all answering the same question by inference: "is this change an echo?"

Why I think flags can't fully close this

Two structural limits:

The global flag suppresses the wrong scope. enablePluginParameterUpdate is one boolean for all parameters. While parameter A's update is dispatching (flag false), a legitimate concurrent change to parameter B hits the early return in refreshParameterValue() and is silently dropped -the internal value updates but the host never hears it. I suspect this is exactly the DAW-project-vs-internal-preset drift you were hypothesizing about at the end of the thread. The guard isn't just failing to fix that bug, it's a source of it. Scoped guards can't survive deferred dispatch. A ScopedValueSetter protects a call stack, but this system defers across threads by design. By the time an async-queued listener runs, the guard is long restored and the echo sails through. That's why 633626eeb had to change MIDI automation to sync notification - to drag the callback inside the guard's scope. Changing threading semantics to make a boolean reachable feels like the approach hitting its ceiling.

Proposal: make provenance explicit

The class structure from the rewrite is good - I'd keep all of it. The change is to what a notification is: value plus origin, instead of value alone.

Add a small source token (Host, Macro, MidiAutomation, UI, Script, PresetRestore) to SlotSender::sendChangeMessage() and the listener callbacks, threaded through CustomAutomationData::call(). Because the token travels with the queued message, it survives deferral and thread hops - the thing no scoped flag can do. Each writer passes its own token and ignores incoming messages carrying it. MacroPluginParameter::setValue() writes as Host and skips Host-tagged notifications; same pattern in HisePluginParameterBase, MidiControllerAutomationHandler, CustomAutomationParameter. recursive, sendToHost and the global enablePluginParameterUpdate then become deletable. (deferNotifyHostFlag can stay - batching host notifications is an optimization, not a correctness guard.) Preset restore becomes a first-class source: "macros must not clobber freshly restored widget values" becomes a one-line filter rule instead of an ordering convention plus exclusive-mode conditionals, and the MIDI sync/async choice stops mattering for correctness.

For precedent: JUCE's own ParameterAttachment solves the identical loop the same way - each attachment filters its own echoes at the attachment point.

Hmm, I must give this Claude malarky a bit of a go......

@Kalliopei why not use a peak meter floating tile instead of a panel?

@svkpowa

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@dannytaurus Yes, I have concerns , but its absolutely amazing for doing dynamic graphics.

@LUIS29

I can give the mac compiling a go and try if it compiles ok.
No guarantees. You need to codesign it afterwards thou on every mac machine it is running.
it's not too hard, just running some code through terminal on mac.

@Chazrox its very helpfull for people like me. Thank you bro=]

@observantsound said in Possible to add more colouring options in script editor?:

Just preference

Pretty much

@CyberGen I was just going to make a similar post.
My main wish is to make the right click option "Fold All" assignable as a shortcut.
Many of the other right click options are there already.

@David-Healey oh my god. thank you really. i'll wait for solve. good night that kind man

@Christoph-Hart
Yes, you're quite right, that probably is the real cause.
Still a bit weird, since an older install worked as should.
Although it was the one with an .pkg, or was it .dmg, installer from the website,
so that might have to do with it as well.
And as the admin and the sole user of the machine, the writing rights should've been ok.

You just need to run a command to tell the system where xcode is.

Make sure your xcode app is in /Applications (not the user folder, the system one). Then run the command

sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer

@Christoph-Hart haha thanks man! i dont know what to say. im too new at this stuff, its all hieroglyphes for me.