@MikeB -- Lindon, Hull UK, Audio Developer, before that I worked in Telecommunications (real time and all that - not as complicated as it sounds) and before that I was a record producer....before that I was a starving/failing musician.

@Lindon ....

Feature Request
@Christoph-Hart - Please can we have bus effects (send and receive) as per this discussion :

Feature Request:The Case for Bus Containers

OK, so the current routing matrix system is very very flexible (a very good thing), but is convoluted to set up and (for me at least) not so intuitive and er...

Forum (forum.hise.audio)

-- wow I just re-read the thread I pointed to - I've been a pita about this .....sorry.

So happy holidays to everyone who has them at this time of year.. Anther great year for HISE and this community, tho I did get too many t-shirts this year...

Feature Request

MIDI out.

......Ok that's me done for 2023, so wishing you and yours a safe and festive holiday season and a prosperous, healthy and happy 2024...

Thanks to all of you for making it a great community..... now where did I put that T-Shirt?

So I've seen a few posts here asking how to "do" an LED-style control, and there's been a few answers - all of which seemed to require adding in a png for the LED itself.

So as I needed (or wanted) one of these that used vector drawing, and one that had some level of "red-line" warning as well as momentary peak measurement too I coded one up. You might want to use it - or adapt it to your needs.

So caveat no.1 : as @ustk has said elsewhere - this is not really a gain meter - its approximates one as it uses 100 milliseconds between each measure - so it may miss some peaks. But in any case:

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I'm pretty sure the code could do with re-factoring so I'm always interested in a better version if you want to comment or contribute...

...sliding in late... happy holidays everyone...

Happy holidays everyone...have a fun safe time.

Happy festive season everyone...

@JamesC what Dave says - plus its possible to set this up to control any number of "sound sources" - take a look at this screenshot:

Horizen - pristine cinematic sound - Tracktion Software

Initially born to serve the demands and requirements of composer/producer Andy Hodgson, Horizen 2.5 is a true breakthrough in terms of sonic capability and workflow.

(www.tracktion.com)

You will see we have 10 different voices (4 samplers, 4 synths and 2 loop players) and we allow the end user to place(drag and drop) any of them in any corner of the XY pad.....with a (self imposed) limit of 2 voices max per corner...

@d-healey yeah that'd work - I guess I will leave my script envelope experiments for another day .... thanks.

@griffinboy said in Drift.... and how to design it....:

@Lindon

I went over the top and fully modelled VCO drift a while ago including the interactions between voices.

You can collect pitch draft data from synths by holding a seriously long note, and then running the file through praat and creating a csv of pitch values. Then use python scripts to organize and clean it up.
You can then use Matlab or python to analyze the data and figure out how to get a match.

... Or just use the values as a LUT
Real analog oscillators have a kind of vibrato as well as slow drift. And they also have moments where they quite suddenly bend out of tune.

Well thats very clever, but first I'd like to get this simple case working.

@d-healey I want a fixed random value for each note....

on my machine moving the intensity slider as you point out shifts the entire note - set it on 12 and it is always 12 semi-tones away from the played note - not some random value between 0 and 12...

so this is as far as I have got, so Im generating a random number - but Im not even sure it's being applied to the pitch of the note, or how to set the depth.....

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@Orvillain well thanks for that - but Im not thinking about polyphonic LFOs _ I dont want an LFO - I want a random pitch offset value for every note played...

@Christoph-Hart - well clearly I have no idea what Im doing here...

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@Christoph-Hart ok thanks I will give this a go...

OK so I have a number of synth based voices and - in classic old-style VA synthesis I would like the oscillators to drift slightly in and out of tune.

I've been doing this for a while with a random LFO in the Pitch modulation slot.... but of course this is "monophonic" i.e. every note is drifting by the same amount, and now I'd like to drift each note independently from its peers.

Envelopes are "polyphonic" in nature, so I assume(probably wrongly) I need some sort of envelope in the pitch modulation chain, that varies the played note by some small amount randomly...

A Script Envelope Modulator looks like a possible candidate, but I've never needed to use them and have very little idea where to start... I've fiddled for a morning and Im getting nowhere... any clues on where to start, or another way to achieve this outcome?

..0h forgot to mention: yes clearly I could do this in a std script processor with addPitchFade - but looking to not add more complexity to my HUGE script processor chain...

@gxxdstress so first dont put spaces in your project names - use CamelCase, second its missing xcpretty - so download and install that.

Did you build HISE from the source?