Alright this is probably the least frustrating way to set this up to share on the forum. I realize the effects won't be shared either unless they are in ScriptFX. So instructions for compiling:

Import Hise Snippet Save each individual ScriptFx network (6 in total) Export the networks to dll. Select "Replace script FX modules" so they are exchanged for hardcoded master Fx. Close and reopen HISE Uncomment the code. 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@Lindon Ah that is an interesting suggestion. It seems to work exported to VST (as of now) so I will keep it that way. But if you have any suggestions for improvements let me know.

The reason I am approaching it this way is to make a minimal code version for others to use. It's sitll pretty intense for a novice developer but it's certainly much simpler than my last method. I am making a separate post for it which I will link here:

Link Preview Image Modular FX Template - changing Fx order with drag and drop panels

Modular FX Template Every now and again I see a user posting about how rearrange FX and a new method crossed my mind on how to approach it. This essentially ...

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Looks like it is time to order myself a new shirt 🙃

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@HISEnberg Gnarrly 🔥

@d-healey Wonderful I'll see if I can rewrite with just the File (System) APIs in that case! Luckily for me these are "universal settings" so they should be applied cross each instance of the plugin.

@Consint I kind of gave up on it and used HISE's stock FFT instead, I couldn't risk the issue coming up again. So in short I never tested moving it to a background task. I did edit my original code so that it only repaints when a new FFT path is shown and to reduce the amount of bins. According to the profiler it was more efficient than the stock FFT but this doesn't necessarily address the issue users are facing.

Sorry wish I could offer more help with this issue.

@HISEnberg Ok, I think it is cleaned up enough to pass along now. If you like we can do a video call or chat to talk about how to adapt it to your project. I'll send you some files in a message.

location dependent and 3+ years old company... That's discrimination... What are they waiting for to make a "except if you pay more" rule? 👊 🤣

@d-healey Ahh I see thank you David that does make a lot of sense!

@Christoph-Hart Thank you.

@Oli-Ullmann hmm I don't think so. I am in a precarious position where I don't want to release a new version of this specific plugin with the same issues again so I am defaulting back to the standard FFT. We carried the conversation over to this thread:

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@HISEnberg Yes I do, but some very simple/small ones in a plugin and some much more complex in a standalone. None of them relying on a background task that h...

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I also created that profiling script so you can get a snapshot of the users experience. I think that is a pretty useful tool but only if your users are willing to help you debug the issues.

@HISEnberg said in How to optimize Scriptnode Networks?:

How to measure the latency introduced by my Scriptnode network? I imagine driving an impulse through the plugin and recording the output should reveal this (for a DAW specific context). Is this something Plugin Doctor can measure, or does someone have a better methodology?

You can do a Null test in your DAW for this.

One channel will be the dry (unprocessed) signal. The other channel will be the processed signal, that is, the channel where the plugin is.

Make one channel phase invert. If these two channels are identical, the overall result will be silence. Since there is a delay at the sample level in the channel where the plugin is, determine the amount of sample delay required until the result of the combination of these two channels is silence with a sample delay in the dry channel.

The amount of delay you will apply to silence the sound in the dry channel is the amount of delay created by your plugin's DSP.

How to compensate for latency introduced by the Scriptnode network? I see in the API Engine.setLatencySamples, but it is unclear to me what it does. Are we meant to measure the latency of the scriptnode network (for example 32 samples) and this function will broadcast to the host the latency introduced by the plugin (i.e. "this plugin introduces 32 samples of latency, so compensate for that")? What does the host actually do with this information?

If your plugin has a delay of 32 samples, the DAW will play your plugin 32 samples ahead, thus compensating for the delay. Therefore, it is necessary to inform the DAW of this delay value with Engine.setLatencySamples.

@d-healey Ah that's good to know, and makes perfect sense.

@ustk Wow seriously impressive work here! Excited to dig into this.

Yes global cables are supposed to work without any special flags, but you have to create the cable in your main script as the compiled nodes do not have that ability.

@HISEnberg no folded nodes are not rendered (anymore).

I found the graphics performance of scriptnode to be pretty much on par with what my eyes can parse. If the network is getting too big with too many cables, the framerate drop is a nice nudge to reorganize stuff (the tools are there).

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@d-healey Ah yes thank you for the correction.

It is definitely a simpler solution, it just doesn't quite work with the current LAF of my preset browser but for the performance benefit it is worth it!

@HISEnberg Yes creating paths directly from the display buffer is the way to go.

@d-healey It's strange it isn't the channel count either. I can't really put my finger on it since I load the snippet into the same project, change the channel amount and it works fine. It is just my current .xml that it won't work in, and it isn't like I am reusing any of the variables or anything (I commented out all my other code to test). I am just going to sit on it and address it later.