Global modulators on FX plugins - how?

d.healey

@tomekslesicki said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

Try it and tell me, I haven't made an fx plugin for a couple of years so can't remember.

tomekslesicki

@d-healey nope, it needs to be on the master

d.healey

@tomekslesicki In that case there seems to be no point in global modulators being available in FX plugins at all, or am I missing something?

tomekslesicki

@d-healey Yeah, it seems like @Christoph-Hart added it as requested but it doesn't bring anything to the table if you can't use the modulators :D

Christoph Hart

@tomekslesicki I‘m pretty sure you can use them in an FX plugin (but I have no idea why they don‘t show up in the drop down, might have slipped in at some point).

tomekslesicki

@christoph-hart I bet they work but you're right, I can't select them from the drop down so I can't check that ;-)

Christoph Hart

@tomekslesicki Yes, I tried to fake it by creating the mod connection in a child sound generator. If you then paste it to the master chain FX, it works, but the next time you load the patch the connection is gone. It's like as if HISE doesn't like cheating :)

I'll take a look now, I'm sure it's a trivial fix - not unlike our eternal friend, the cubase offline export :)

Christoph Hart

Alright, please pull, recompile and try now with this snippet:

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tomekslesicki

@christoph-hart I just tried it and it works perfectly in HISE (thank you!) but not on a compiled plugin.

tomekslesicki

bump bump

tomekslesicki

@Christoph-Hart - in case you missed it among new posts

Christoph Hart

@tomekslesicki Should work now.

tomekslesicki

@Christoph-Hart hey Christoph, so I just had a chance to test it and still, it works great in HISE but doesn't on exported plugins. Could you please take another look at this? I'm on the latest Develop build.

DanH

@tomekslesicki works for me in compiled fx plugins, but the lfo speed on Windows has a bug I think

tomekslesicki

@DanH ok, my bad, I didn't have it enabled in the preferences, lol

There's one bug, though - when oversampling is implemented with this call:

if(value)
        Engine.setMinimumSampleRate(100000);
    else
        Engine.setMinimumSampleRate(40000);

The LFO rate changes when not synced to host tempo @Christoph-Hart

tomekslesicki

@Christoph-Hart and just one more thing on the topic - the frequency isn't changed it HISE, it only happens in compiled plugins.

Dan Korneff

@tomekslesicki I get some strange stuff happening with oversampling this way. I have to use a script to toggle is on/off to get it working

tomekslesicki

@dustbro I have this in a button callback. Do you have a better way you could share? :-)

tomekslesicki

@dustbro ?

Dan Korneff

@tomekslesicki I found that oversampling using the setMunimumSampleRate method needs to be "kickstarted" to work, so this is my workaround. I see a visual change in FFT display and EQ when OS is enabled, so that will probably affect other modules as well (like LFO)
This function just flip flops the OS state

const var osflipTimer = Engine.createTimerObject();

osflipTimer.startTimer(250);
osflipTimer.setTimerCallback(function()
{
    Engine.setMinimumSampleRate(96000);
    Engine.setMinimumSampleRate(44100);
    OSinitial();
});



inline function OSinitial()
{   
    local oscombo = OversamplingCombo.getValue() -1;
    OversamplingCombo.setValue((1-oscombo)+1);
        
    counter = counter + 1;
    
    if(counter>=2)
    {
        osflipTimer.stopTimer();
    }
    
    OversamplingCombo.changed();
};

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