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      tomekslesicki @d.healey
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      @d-healey I can't put it on top of the Master Chain, which is what I have to use for the FX plugin.

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        d.healey @tomekslesicki
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        @tomekslesicki So this won't work?

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          ulrik @d.healey
          last edited by ulrik

          @d-healey that's not working, try and add a Waveform generator, you'll not get the signal into to effect container, or is there a way to set it up? I have tried but not succeed

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            d.healey @ulrik
            last edited by

            @ulrik said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

            try and add a Waveform generator

            But does it work as an effect plugin which is what the OP wants?

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @ulrik
              last edited by d.healey

              @ulrik Works here with a waveform gen

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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey Oh, I'm so sorry, I was actually right now trying to get it to work in my own project, which is a synth, sorry! 😬

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                  ulrik @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey Yes it is !!! I must have gone out to lunch :) with my project, thank you David!

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                    tomekslesicki @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey Wait, so for FX plugins, I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

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                      d.healey @tomekslesicki
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                      @tomekslesicki said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

                      I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

                      Try it and tell me, I haven't made an fx plugin for a couple of years so can't remember.

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                        tomekslesicki @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey nope, it needs to be on the master

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                          d.healey @tomekslesicki
                          last edited by

                          @tomekslesicki In that case there seems to be no point in global modulators being available in FX plugins at all, or am I missing something?

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                            tomekslesicki @d.healey
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                            @d-healey Yeah, it seems like @Christoph-Hart added it as requested but it doesn't bring anything to the table if you can't use the modulators :D

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                              Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
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                              @tomekslesicki I‘m pretty sure you can use them in an FX plugin (but I have no idea why they don‘t show up in the drop down, might have slipped in at some point).

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                                tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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                                @christoph-hart I bet they work but you're right, I can't select them from the drop down so I can't check that ;-)

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                                  Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
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                                  @tomekslesicki Yes, I tried to fake it by creating the mod connection in a child sound generator. If you then paste it to the master chain FX, it works, but the next time you load the patch the connection is gone. It's like as if HISE doesn't like cheating :)

                                  I'll take a look now, I'm sure it's a trivial fix - not unlike our eternal friend, the cubase offline export :)

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                                    Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
                                    last edited by Christoph Hart

                                    Alright, please pull, recompile and try now with this snippet:

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                                      tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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                                      @christoph-hart I just tried it and it works perfectly in HISE (thank you!) but not on a compiled plugin.

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                                        tomekslesicki @tomekslesicki
                                        last edited by

                                        bump bump

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                                          tomekslesicki @tomekslesicki
                                          last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart - in case you missed it among new posts

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                                            Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
                                            last edited by

                                            @tomekslesicki Should work now.

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