Indie license

[d.healey]

@Sampletekk both

[orange]

@Sampletekk You must have both licenses

[Sampletekk]

@d-healey Oki! If I understand it correctly, up to $20.000 yearly revenue, the license for Juice is free: https://juce.com/get-juce/
Is this correct?

[DabDab]

@Sampletekk said in Indie license:

$20.000

Not $20.00 it is $20,000

[DanH]

@Sampletekk Looks like it! I'm sure there used to be a splash screen pre v8 but maybe it's been updated since. Bare in mind as already mentioned on this thread that Hise uses Juice 6, which may have a different license... (but I think you'll be ok)

[bendurso]

@Sampletekk Hmm, I believe that only applies to JUCE 8. Since HISE uses JUCE 6, the Indie version was required in JUCE 6 regardless of income if you didn't use the splash screen (I asked ChatGPT about this a while ago).

[d.healey]

@bendurso said in Indie license:

I asked ChatGPT

You also asked Christoph ;)

Licensing Changes to Juce 8 and HISE

@bendurso Actually, HISE 4 is still using JUCE 6, but you can of course use older versions with a newer license, you're just bound to the new license agreeme...

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[bendurso]

@d-healey haha right, but I was in doubt about the new free version of Juce, that sadly doesn't look to apply for us :(

[d.healey]

@bendurso said in Indie license:

that sadly doesn't look to apply for us

I've just emailed JUCE for clarification, I don't trust GPT.

[bendurso]

@d-healey that's a better idea. I think chatGPT also told me to email juce to be sure. So you went ahead :)

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Could you let us know what the answer from JUCE is? That would be great! :-)

[d.healey]

@Oli-Ullmann Of course! That is the only reason I emailed them :) I use the GPL license so it doesn't affect me.

[Oli Ullmann]

@d-healey
Thank you! :-)

[Christoph Hart]

Most JUCE license agreements are covering all versions up to this number so you can get a JUCE 8 license for using JUCE 6 (otherwise nobody could start using HISE now)

The personal license might be a special case because it wasn‘t (nag) free with prior JUCE versions so if you hear back from the JUCE devs it would be interesting to hear (I vaguely remember discussing this back at the JUCE 8 license turmoil but it got buried under the noise).

[Sampletekk]

@DabDab said in Indie license:

@Sampletekk said in Indie license:

$20.000

Not $20.00 it is $20,000

I'm from Sweden, here 20,00 is twenty.....:face_with_tongue:

[d.healey]

Just got a reply.

A JUCE 8 licence grants you the right to use all previous versions of JUCE too, so you can indeed use JUCE 6 on a JUCE 8 Starter licence.

[bendurso]

@d-healey But do you have to follow the rules of Juce 6? (https://juce.com/legal/juce-6-license/) Because Juce 6 Personal (equivalent to Juce 8 Starter) required the splash screen, which is not used in Hise.

[Christoph Hart]

@bendurso no, as the statement above says, you can use JUCE 6 with a JUCE 8 license as if it would be JUCE 8.

[bendurso]

@Christoph-Hart Oh got it, you can use Juce 6, but you have to follow the rules of Juce 8 (whatever starter, indie or pro)