Dynamic reassignment of effect slots

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart said in Dynamic reassignment of effect slots:

addToModuleState

Why should we use “addToModuleState”? To save the modulation of the sliders, they have to be “saveInPreset” anyway, right? Isn't that redundant?

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart
Ok, no they don't. I just checked it.

Christoph Hart

Why should we use “addToModuleState”?

Because it stores everything (including audio files & sliderpacks if applicable) and you don't need to reroute components to the new modules.

To save the modulation of the sliders, they have to be “saveInPreset” anyway, right?

No. The modulation connections are not part of the slider's data model. For loading / saving matrix connections you just use this method and store the string somewhere.

EDIT: Actually you don't need to do this manually, as soon as you create a ScriptModulationMatrix, it registers itself and writes / loads its state from user presets.

iamlamprey

@Christoph-Hart aww man I just did it all manually

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart
Great, thanks for the info. :-)

Orvillain

Does any kind soul have a snippet that demonstrates how to use Engine.addModuleStateToUserPreset???

David Healey

@Orvillain

// In onInit
Engine.addModuleStateToUserPreset("InsertNameOfModule");

Orvillain

@d-healey So Do I have it right then.... call that function for every module that I want to save to a preset.... save to a preset in the browser..... then when I load it, those things will be recalled both in the module tree and the connected UI parameters, regardless of if saveInPreset is enabled????

David Healey

@Orvillain It will be recalled to the module tree, not sure about the UI parameters but Christoph seems to indicate that with this dynamic effect slot system that it will be.

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart
When I try to follow your advice with a HardcodedMasterFX, I get the following error message:
Can't store modules with child modules

Is it not possible to use Engine.addModuleStateToUserPreset with a HardcodedMasterFX?

Christoph Hart

those things will be recalled both in the module tree and the connected UI parameters, regardless of if saveInPreset is enabled????

It will be recalled to the module tree, not sure about the UI parameters but Christoph seems to indicate that with this dynamic effect slot system that it will be.

No UI parameters are not part of the module that is restored with its state so they won't update automatically. But you can call this method after loading a user preset to ensure that all connected sliders are synced to their internal values:

https://docs.hise.dev/scripting/scripting-api/userpresethandler/index.html#updateconnectedcomponentsfrommodulestate

Is it not possible to use Engine.addModuleStateToUserPreset with a HardcodedMasterFX?

Do you have any modulation slots enabled? If yes then this is preventing you from restoring the hardcoded FX because currently you can only restore modules that have no child modules with this function. But I might have to change this to allow it for hardcoded modules as this would be very limiting.

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart
Ah, okay, that's where the problem lies...
Yes, I have enabled modulation slots.

Christoph Hart

@Oli-Ullmann Alright this is fixed now - you can call this on modules with child elements now but the child elements will not be modified at all - the rule that rebuilding child elements is dangerous still stands, but this is a valid use case to restore a module without its modulation slots (which are restored by the script modulation matrix anyways).

Oli Ullmann

@Christoph-Hart
That's great, thanks! I'll try it out and give feedback if I encounter any problems. Thanks very much! :-)

DanH

@Christoph-Hart said in Dynamic reassignment of effect slots:

https://docs.hise.dev/scripting/scripting-api/userpresethandler/index.html#updateconnectedcomponentsfrommodulestate

What if the controls are not connected by Parameter ID etc but via scripting instead (as lots of mine are as they do more than one job...)

HISEnberg

@Christoph-Hart said in Dynamic reassignment of effect slots:

Just a small heads up that we have this now:

https://docs.hise.dev/tutorials/ui/index.html#draggable-fx-chain

I noticed one small anomaly about this example. If you add more effects to the example script, you need to set the panel's saveInPreset to false temporarily to update the JSON effect list, then reenable it again!

Orvillain

@Christoph-Hart said in Dynamic reassignment of effect slots:

Just a small heads up that we have this now:

https://docs.hise.dev/tutorials/ui/index.html#draggable-fx-chain

As it turns out, that was reasonably easy to add.

HISEnberg

@Orvillain Agreed so far I am really happy about this! Very simple to use. Need to test it out in some real world examples still!

HISEnberg

I'm bumping up against an issue I can't solve in this snippet. How do you filter the list of effects so only certain ones can be rearranged?

In my case I may have certain effects like Routing Matrices, or Input and Output Gains that I want in fixed places (beginning and end of chain).

**Edit I did resolve this with some back and forth with AI. I think someone can come up with a cleaner solution since it should hypothetically be fairly simple to filter the list of effects.

What A(I) did was make edits to the make() and onChange() functions.

On make() I manually created the Fx List and added a startIndex and endIndex. Then in onChange I you just need to offset the indices (add startIndex) so setEffectChainOrder() get's the right positions.

I'll spare the forum some AI slop but here is a sloppy HISE snippet in case anyone needs it and no better solutions present themselves!

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ustk

@HISEnberg if it's just in the beginning and the end of the chain, then you can re-order them using the range parameter and an offset. In fact, even in the case you have fixed FXs in the middle, it should be possible to re-order in two chunks, before and after.

In the end it is just juggling with position numbers.

if you have 10 fx in total, and want to re-order from 3 to 7 (0 based, 3 fixed at start and 2 at the end)

the the slotRange is [3, 7] and chainOrder is for instance [4, 7, 6, 3, 5]
This leaves 0,1,2 and 7,8,9 untouched

If your chainOrder is based on indexes from 0 to 4, just add an offset of 3

Dynamic reassignment of effect slots

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