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    • DanHD
      DanH @Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      @Christoph-Hart is there a option to customise the pop up text when hovering over a stage?

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        @Christoph-Hart last thing 😆 Perhaps the mouse handles should be an updown arrow for the curve nodes, rather than the hand, since the curve nodes can only move up and down...

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        • StraticahS
          Straticah @DanH
          last edited by Straticah

          @DanH @Christoph-Hart the flex envelope is essentially missing the spline XY handles to create an envelope in the first place.

          From a UX design standpoint:
          01 Base level (priority): conventional ADSR controls — Unconstrained handles for Attack, Decay, Sustain, Release, no dials required, easy to read/adjust.

          02 Secondary / advanced: spline-shaped ADSR curves with Bezier handles for fine-tuning shape.

          Current Issue:
          The existing flex envelope design inverts this hierarchy, prioritizing Bezier-based curve editing as the default interaction. (Which can feel slow and constrained for user since base level controls are missing.)

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          Initial envelope discussion:
          https://forum.hise.audio/topic/11509/custom-envelope/19?_=1754988313518

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          building user interfaces in HISE :)
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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart @Straticah
            last edited by

            @Straticah Yes I think the main issue is that weird distinction between horizontal and vertical adjustment (which is hinted by the mouse cursor change). If I change that to allow changing both dimensions at once, then you just need to slap a rectangle at the corner points and voila you have your UX, right?

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            • StraticahS
              Straticah @Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              @Christoph-Hart exactly

              building user interfaces in HISE :)
              web: www.vst-design.com

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              • Oli UllmannO
                Oli Ullmann @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart
                FYI
                obj.active does not work. It is always 0.

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                • HISEnbergH
                  HISEnberg @Oli Ullmann
                  last edited by

                  Just to add to this, laf.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsText", function(g, obj) doesn't seem to work either....

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @HISEnberg
                    last edited by

                    @HISEnberg said in Flex Envelope - No UI control for Hold:

                    drawFlexAhdsText

                    You're missing an r

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @d.healey
                      last edited by Christoph Hart

                      Alright, I've pushed a change that allows to switch the UX to the proposed method. There's now a UseOneDimensionDrag property in the floating tile - the default is still true so it keeps the old behaviour unless you change that.

                      Once this is set to false you can drag in both directions to change the length and level simultaneously.

                      obj.active does not work. It is always 0.

                      Nope, works here, but it is true whenever the segment is currently played by the last active voice, not if you hover over it or anything else.

                      That's the snippet from the snippet browser with a colour change for the active segment:

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                      • Oli UllmannO
                        Oli Ullmann @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @Christoph-Hart
                        Got it, thanks! :-)

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                        • HISEnbergH
                          HISEnberg @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by HISEnberg

                          @Christoph-Hart Nice this feels much better, thank you for prioritizing it!

                          My only immediate comment would be to add a small amount of padding on the borders. It's quite difficult to drag one of the points (for example the release) when it is close to the edges. Not really a big deal, probably there is a way to get around in HISE script as well.

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                          • HISEnbergH
                            HISEnberg @HISEnberg
                            last edited by

                            Here is a LAF I was working on for anyone who is interested. It would be nice to be able change the square handles for controlling the lengths, but otherwise this new FLEX Envelope is quite sexy. 💪 😰 🏋

                            flexsex.gif

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                            const var ft_Flex = Content.getComponent("ft_Flex");
                            const var laf_flex = Content.createLocalLookAndFeel();
                            	
                            	// Background 
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrBackground", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    g.setGradientFill([0xFF1a1a1a, 0, 0, 0xFF1a1a1a, 0, obj.area[3], false]);
                            	    g.fillRect(obj.area);
                            	});
                            	
                            	// Path w/ 3 Strokes and gradient fill
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrFullPath", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    g.beginLayer(true);
                            	    
                            	    g.setColour(0x3333AAFF);
                            	    g.drawPath(obj.path, obj.pathArea, 8.0);
                            	    
                            	    g.setColour(0x5533AAFF);
                            	    g.drawPath(obj.path, obj.pathArea, 4.0);
                            	    
                            	    g.setColour(0xFF33AAFF);
                            	    g.drawPath(obj.path, obj.pathArea, 2.0);
                            	    
                            	    g.setColour(Colours.white);
                            	    g.drawPath(obj.path, obj.pathArea, 1.0);
                            	    
                            	    g.endLayer();
                            	    
                                	// Gradient fill
                            	    var fadeStart = obj.pathArea[1] + obj.pathArea[3] * 0.6; 
                            	    g.setGradientFill([0x5033AAFF, obj.pathArea[0], obj.pathArea[1], 
                            	                       0x00ffffff, obj.pathArea[0], fadeStart, false]);
                            	    g.fillPath(obj.path, obj.pathArea);
                            	});
                            	
                            	// Curve point handles 
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrCurvePoint", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    var pointSize = 8;
                            	    var halfSize = pointSize / 2;
                            	    
                            	    g.beginLayer(true);
                            	    g.setColour(0x4433AAFF);
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.curvePoint[0] - halfSize - 3, obj.curvePoint[1] - halfSize - 3, 
                            	                   pointSize + 6, pointSize + 6]);
                            	    g.endLayer();
                            	    
                            	    g.setGradientFill([0xFF66BBFF, obj.curvePoint[0] - halfSize, obj.curvePoint[1] - halfSize,
                            	                       0xFF1A7ACC, obj.curvePoint[0] + halfSize, obj.curvePoint[1] + halfSize, true]);
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.curvePoint[0] - halfSize, obj.curvePoint[1] - halfSize, pointSize, pointSize]);
                            	    
                            	    g.setColour(0xFF33AAFF);
                            	    g.drawEllipse([obj.curvePoint[0] - halfSize, obj.curvePoint[1] - halfSize, pointSize, pointSize], 1);
                            	    
                            	    var innerSize = 3;
                            	    var innerHalf = innerSize / 2;
                            	    g.setColour(0x88FFFFFF);
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.curvePoint[0] - innerHalf, obj.curvePoint[1] - innerHalf, innerSize, innerSize]);
                            	});
                            	
                            	// Individual segment rendering with active state indication
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrSegment", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    var reducedArea = [obj.area[0] + 8, obj.area[1] + 8, obj.area[2] - 16, obj.area[3] - 16];
                            	    
                            	    if (obj.active)
                            	    {
                            	        g.setColour(0x4433AAFF);
                            	        g.fillPath(obj.path, reducedArea);
                            	        
                            	        g.setColour(0x7733AAFF);
                            	        g.drawPath(obj.path, reducedArea, 2.0);
                            	    }
                            	    else
                            	    {
                            	        g.setColour(0x1533AAFF);
                            	        g.fillPath(obj.path, reducedArea);
                            	    }
                            	});
                            	
                            	// Position indicator, this part is AI
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrPosition", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    var markerSize = 14;
                            	    var halfSize = markerSize / 2;
                            	    var pulseSize = markerSize + Math.sin(Engine.getUptime() * 8) * 2;
                            	    var pulseHalf = pulseSize / 2;
                            	    
                            	    // Outer glow layer
                            	    g.beginLayer(true);
                            	    g.setColour(0x4433AAFF); // Blue glow
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.pointOnPath[0] - pulseHalf - 4, obj.pointOnPath[1] - pulseHalf - 4, 
                            	                   pulseSize + 8, pulseSize + 8]);
                            	    g.endLayer();
                            	    
                            	    // Main gradient ellipse
                            	    g.setGradientFill([0xFF66BBFF, obj.pointOnPath[0] - halfSize, obj.pointOnPath[1] - halfSize,
                            	                       0xFF1A7ACC, obj.pointOnPath[0] + halfSize, obj.pointOnPath[1] + halfSize, true]);
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.pointOnPath[0] - halfSize, obj.pointOnPath[1] - halfSize, markerSize, markerSize]);
                            	    
                            	    // Blue outline
                            	    g.setColour(0xFF33AAFF);
                            	    g.drawEllipse([obj.pointOnPath[0] - halfSize, obj.pointOnPath[1] - halfSize, markerSize, markerSize], 1.5);
                            	    
                            	    // White core highlight
                            	    var coreSize = 3;
                            	    var coreHalf = coreSize / 2;
                            	    g.setColour(0xFFFFFFFF);
                            	    g.fillEllipse([obj.pointOnPath[0] - coreHalf, obj.pointOnPath[1] - coreHalf, coreSize, coreSize]);
                            	});
                            	
                            	// Label
                            	laf_flex.registerFunction("drawFlexAhdsrText", function(g, obj)
                            	{
                            	    var padding = 20;
                            	    var textArea = [obj.area[0] + obj.area[2] - 100 - padding, obj.area[1] + padding, 100, 30];                                        
                            	   
                            	    // Text
                            	    g.setFont("Arial", 12);
                            	    g.setColour(0xFF33AAFF);
                            	    g.drawAlignedText(obj.text, textArea, "right");
                            	});
                            	
                            	ft_Flex.setLocalLookAndFeel(laf_flex);
                            
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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey
                              last edited by d.healey

                              The thing about the flex envelope in Kontakt that makes it a flex envelope, is that you can add a flexible number of points to it and adjust them. You can't do this with the HISE "flex envelope" which is really just an AHDSR with a nice UX.

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                              I'd really like it if the flex envelope at least allowed us to define custom shapes for the sustain section. Or if the table envelope could loop its sustain part which would achieve the same thing.

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                              • LindonL
                                Lindon @d.healey
                                last edited by

                                @d-healey also called a.multisegment or mseg envelope...

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