Latest version of HISE breaks existing presets....

[dannytaurus]

@Lindon Which HISE commit is the older version?

[Lindon]

@dannytaurus this is a console.print of the preset evaluation fo r 2.5 version management - it is basically saying "Im doing nothing.."

I completely remooved the preset post load function just to make sure it wasnt this that was playing silly, it wasnt...

[dannytaurus]

@Lindon So we're getting multiple callbacks in the newer version of HISE. If you know the commit of the older version, it will make tracking down the bug a lot easier.

[Lindon]

@dannytaurus said in Latest version of HISE breaks existing presets....:

@Lindon So we're getting multiple callbacks in the newer version of HISE. If you know the commit of the older version, it will make tracking down the bug a lot easier.

yes it would....

but meanwhile - I made an entirely new preset and saved it......to check if it was affected by this problem...

Not only was it not affected - but all other presets now start to work properly....

Interface: we are setting the Master volume to:-7.799999237060547
Interface: *******START the post load callback
Interface: we are loading a preset for version:30100.0
Interface: *********END the post load callback
Interface: we are setting the Master volume to:-11.79999923706055
Interface: *******START the post load callback
Interface: we are loading a preset for version:30100.0
Interface: *********END the post load callback
Interface: we are setting the Master volume to:-8.59999942779541
Interface: *******START the post load callback
Interface: we are loading a preset for version:30100.0
Interface: *********END the post load callback
Interface: we are setting the Master volume to:-5.59999942779541
Interface: *******START the post load callback
Interface: we are loading a preset for version:30000.0
Interface: *********END the post load callback
Interface: we are setting the Master volume to:3.700001001358032
Interface: *******START the post load callback
Interface: we are loading a preset for version:30000.0

Worrying

[Lindon]

@Lindon close and re-open HISE and its broken again...

[Lindon]

@Lindon this is what the about HISe box shows me:

so pre having a hash available...

so the date on the HISE binary is 19th feb 2025... so very old...

hacking back thru HISE versions now...

starting July 28th....builds...but has the bug!! - so this is quite old....
May 2025....builds..but still has the bug. -- getting a bad feeling about this...
April 1st -... builds and does not have the bug.... OK so somewhere between 1.April and 14 May 2025....a total of 14 commits.....
12th April......builds but has the bug.....
7th April....builds..but has the bug...
3rd April....builds and works fine....so theres only 4 commits between here and the next not working one....and theres a fairly obvious candidate...

[Oli Ullmann]

@David-Healey said in Latest version of HISE breaks existing presets....:

With your master volume, are you doing the save in DAW trick so that you can change presets without the volume level changing?

Can you tell me more about this? What kind of trick is it? Is there a thread about it in the forum?

Maybe it will help with my current problem: The modulation data of the new modulation system is not loaded when reloading a DAW project with a plug-in compiled with HISE.

Many thanks,
Oli

[David Healey]

@Oli-Ullmann said in Latest version of HISE breaks existing presets....:

Is there a thread about it in the forum?

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/6410/restoring-properties-with-daw-session

It's not working for me recently. I need to investigate if it's a bug in my code or something's changed in HISE.

[Lindon]

@Lindon

OK found then commit that is breaking my projects.....

its 7th April 2025... which includes the commit

"- rewrote plugin parameter system to use unified base class for all automation types"

So I suspect this is the culprit.

@Christoph-Hart ??? any chance of looking at this? If you cant get it to fail I can send you my project.....

[David Healey]

@Lindon This one https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/a92a701de79edee8bd3ae1268e234a582a6973b2

[Oli Ullmann]

@David-Healey
Thank you very much! I'll take a look at that. :-)

[Lindon]

@David-Healey yep - I think so....

[David Healey]

@Lindon Well I just noticed a very similar problem with my project. Every time I hit compile my pan knob was getting set to -23 and my volume to -97db. These values are not in any presets or the project xml.

I disabled isPluginParameter and the issue is gone. But now they are not plugin parameters...

As soon as I reenable that setting the issue returns.

I tried to recreate it in a minimal project but no luck.

[Oli Ullmann]

@David-Healey
Is this an older project that you created with an older version of HISE, or is it a project that you started with a newer version of HISE?

[David Healey]

@Oli-Ullmann Older project. I'm seeing other weird behaviour too with any knob that has isPluginParameter enabled. In one case moving a knob is moving another knob even though there is no connection between them that I have made. Again, disabling isPluginParameter fixes it.

[David Healey]

Ok I managed to make a minimal snippet.

@Lindon are you using Macros?

I found if you have a knob connected to a macro it will control another knob that has isPluginParameter enabled. Even if that second knob is not connected to the macro and the first knob doesn't have isPluginParameter enabled. There are some crossed wires somewhere.

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Move knob2 and observe knob1 is moved, there is no connection between them that I have made.

[dannytaurus]

@David-Healey I'm sure this was reported elsewhere recently...

[David Healey]

Ok I managed to "fix it".

Add this HISE_MACROS_ARE_PLUGIN_PARAMETERS=1 in the project's extra definitions. No need to recompile or anything.

It seems backwards to me though, surely 0 should disable it (0 is the default value).

[dannytaurus]

@David-Healey It was here: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/14121/issue-macro-taking-the-priority

But I see you found the answer anyway. Maybe post over there too, I'm not sure of that post was ever resolved?

[David Healey]

@dannytaurus Actually it's not the solution because now all macro's are exposed as plugin parameters which I don't want.