@Christoph-Hart

Ok, solved it , NOT a bug , you need two envelopes for this to work , second one set to Monophonic .
Strange ! , lets see if it works ...

Strange operation , if you set the release of the first one long , play a chord , and then retrigger , you will be retriggering the chord . Understandable ,since its two envelopes but weird operation.

See example.

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Add a legato with retrigger ,and the whole thing becomes a bit of a mess, retriggers sometimes and always ticks which is not good as mono mode would be at least on of the reasons to use this.

What you can do to get closer to normal monophonic behaviour is have no release on the first envelope , but that obviously means no release available at all.

See example.

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Place the simple envelope AFTER the the mono envelope , and it still acts as the main release, which I think makes no sense ?
Bit of a mess.

In conclusion , the mono envelope just acts as an additional envelop on top of a poly envelope Unless I am missing something and someone can set me straight ?

Set it to Retrigger and its unstable and always ticks when retriggering the envelope.

See example.

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It is practically impossible to emulate a simple analog monosynth with the current envelope situation , is this something that could be addressed?

Is it possible to build an monophonic envelope using Scriptnode ?
I tried something , but can only get a poly gate ..it should at least be possible to get just a normal gate signal , note either on or off , if there was access to that , maybe I could build one ?

Ah think I've figured out the issue, second mic position has 6 channels - I must have screwed up the export, should have been a stereo file. I'll try again :D

Although a nice message instead of an instant crash would be better.

I'm using the plugin version on Mac and PC here. Haven't seen this issue yet. I might be running a different version number, so I'll check when I get back to the lab.

Yup, this has been discussed in some previous posts as well. The Width and Pan modulation are not really functional.

@pasmae Should say 2.1, sure you built the scriptnode branch?

Pity it's a hard compile and no runtime check.

Turn saveInPreset off?! AH YES! Ignore me, thanks :)

<insert gif of snoopy dancing>

I am in your debt, thanks soooo much for the quick reply! That solved it :)

Also, I appreciate the explanation about deferal....I suspected something like that was going on, but am still getting my feet wet here so every little bit of information helps!

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Finally problem solved with the Multimic method (A really great way to control different mic positions)...
Thumbs up @Christoph-Hart and @d-healey for the suggestion 👍

well done!

@Christoph-Hart said in Website is a mess:

Ah ok it seems as if the doc generator breaks links that are in a table. Shouldn‘t be hard to fix...

Thanks for getting on this. It was difficult for me getting into hise just a week or two ago. That was due to the complexity of the whole thing mostly though and the amount of reading required for this kind of software dev, I am previously only into php/js and KSP, not desktop stuff. But that´s what the Tutorial pages are for. To cover all the things that are going to be complex and make it simple. All tutorial pages have broken links from the front page hise.audio.

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Additionally, the requirements for the platforms are not update in a while:

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The minimum requirement for building HISE should be over macOS 10.10, I think. It´s not possible to install IPP on macs that have macOS prior to 10.13, because Intel keeps removing their IPP support for anything past 2 years back. The IPP version that can be accessed today is minimum 2018-2, which has a minimum requirement of macOS 10.13. I tried to install on Yosemite and had to give up. (note: macOS can still export something for 10.7, so the end result is not the issue, that can also be more clear, it was not to me in the beginning)

Also, Xcode is a chapter of it´s own, which of course is the biggest issue on mac. Xcode 8.x seems to be most liked here. That requires macOS 10.11, El Capitan, at v8.0. The latest release 8.3.3 requires macOS 10.12 Sierra or later. And so on.

Other questionmarks

CPUs and instruction sets

What cpu instruction set? That´s available in some parts of the docs, but not here, where is required to be. Like the fact that some scripts, like IPP, require the SSE 4.1 instruction set (starting at a intel Penryn architecture, so Core 2 Duo). So a pretty old one, but still newer than I would have anticipated. It´s 45nm, so older 65nm Xeons will not run this at all, meaning a Mac Pro v1.1-2.1 will not run HISE or any plugins made with the IPP tech.

Luckily we got a "legacy cpu" support now. But I wouldn´t know any of that from the requirements or installation section. Let´s add that.

(first Penryn mac pro is Mac Pro v3.1, so a minimum requirement for IPP for both all platforms using intel afaik)

I just learned about branches, yes you heard it. Haha. I do not use Git from before and only really used releases from projects on github. So for me the legacy cpu support was not included, I seem to remember. Just switched to the scriptnode branch a day after learning about branches. Lot´s of praise to all who helped me get there. That page could be "000 prerequisites of using and making software with hise".

As a beginner I read "grab the latest stable release and get on board" (from 2000+ changes ago). I now know that would be very problematic (mostly when asking on the forums) as most people seem to use another branch with other features.

Linux info is also missing from the requirements.

This is a complex project for one such as I, who came from less complex development environment. For me, I think the 5% extra documentation "on point" stuff would have made my entry smoother. But its also a continuous time that takes as the branches grow and change. I get that.

@d-healey I confirm this error. @Christoph-Hart I'd like you to take a look and let me know if you can fix the session preset restore bug while using extensions in the near future :)

@d-healey
I did use v2.1.0 that compiled by myself.
that source code from @Lindon reply.

I tried compile "BasicSynth" (from hise_tutorial ) Xcode don't said same errors.
But Xcode says another issues:
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I think this is just not declared in this source code.
Anyway, I'll study more.

Thanks for good guys.

@d-healey Yes, but it work now :D
i found the problem , i have to hit compile in external editor to make it work .
before i did hit compile on main script instead

@d-healey That's the other reason why I bring this up: I don't know for certain. My guess is it won't affect other platforms since the only difference is that I explicitly specify which Point class the code is referring to, which, evidently, was JUCE's anyway.

Ok, I experimented with this further and it seems like the only thing that helps is to disable 'is plugin parameter' for the sliders on AAX plugins. defaultValue doesn't help much.

@amounra said in project hanging:

Which makes no sense b/c yeah, I was also seeing it choke on Loop01.
Are you on Win or Mac?
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this was on win10