@MikeB -- Lindon, Hull UK, Audio Developer, before that I worked in Telecommunications (real time and all that - not as complicated as it sounds) and before that I was a record producer....before that I was a starving/failing musician.

So for those of us who have spent the required hard-yards in the sampling business we have a very specific idea of what "legato" means, and frankly this aint what "modern" synths behave like. Stiil we are often asked to recreate this "synth-based" glide portamento legato, what th ***k else you want to call it...thing. And in my experience its a royal PITA to do....

Essentially notes glide between any currently held note on play or release as long as something is held down...and if a truck load of notes are held then they glide in played order....(where truck load == 2+)

HISE is not best set up for this sort of thing - or so I thought.

So after about 6 goes at this and also after the realisation that I really really need a holiday. I think I have it (or a close approximation of it). As I wouldn't want anyone else to have to go through the outrageous process I went thru to get here I decided to release it. So here it is - again MIT licensed so all yours to use...

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Frankly I never want to have to do this again......so please dont ask for amendments, you will have to make them yourself, and if you find a bug - again you will have to fix it yourself - please post your resulting code here.

Meanwhile I'm off to Italy see you in a month, well from next week anyway...

@Lindon ....

Feature Request
@Christoph-Hart - Please can we have bus effects (send and receive) as per this discussion :

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/1983/feature-request-the-case-for-bus-containers

-- wow I just re-read the thread I pointed to - I've been a pita about this .....sorry.

So happy holidays to everyone who has them at this time of year.. Anther great year for HISE and this community, tho I did get too many t-shirts this year...

Feature Request

MIDI out.

......Ok that's me done for 2023, so wishing you and yours a safe and festive holiday season and a prosperous, healthy and happy 2024...

Thanks to all of you for making it a great community..... now where did I put that T-Shirt?

So I've seen a few posts here asking how to "do" an LED-style control, and there's been a few answers - all of which seemed to require adding in a png for the LED itself.

So as I needed (or wanted) one of these that used vector drawing, and one that had some level of "red-line" warning as well as momentary peak measurement too I coded one up. You might want to use it - or adapt it to your needs.

So caveat no.1 : as @ustk has said elsewhere - this is not really a gain meter - its approximates one as it uses 100 milliseconds between each measure - so it may miss some peaks. But in any case:

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I'm pretty sure the code could do with re-factoring so I'm always interested in a better version if you want to comment or contribute...

...sliding in late... happy holidays everyone...

Happy holidays everyone...have a fun safe time.

@Christoph-Hart said in How to control Flex AHDSR Decay time with Velocity?:

@HISEnberg I've added a few customization options to the mouse behaviour for HISE tables last month, this should all be doable.

Well as long (as Dave say) it loops in the sustain potion and thats where the multiple segments are then we get "kontakt like" MSEGs,,,

@David-Healey said in How to control Flex AHDSR Decay time with Velocity?:

MSEG = Kontakt style flex envelope?

yes, and I like your "table envelope" idea above.

@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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oh very nice...

@David-Healey interesting...nasty clicking in the audio output when you play more than one voice at a time...and it doesn't seperate out notes playing at the same time here...yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

What about adding a simple gain module and alternating the pan parameter with each note?

..which would then pan all playing data (all notes) to one side or the other...

@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@Lindon Thanks – Exactly where I want to end, though I still will have to figure out the logic in doing the same with just one sampler.

Things like these are still tough for me as I think mostly as a musician and producer. So I think in the picture of a midi message triggering either left or right, but running through a stereo amp :-)

Well, what you seem to be conflating here are signal and note routing...once a signal is audio then you get to pan it left or right, you dont get to decide which side based on the note played - at that point its stereo audio data - coming out of your sampler. it no longer contains any information about the note that generated it.

I think its worth having a model of how the sampler works:

Midi data(notes) arrives at the sampler, and the sampler looks up the correct audio file to play and plays it, then it mixes this audio in with any other audio that it is playing at the time and outputs that as stereo output...this is essentially how all samplers work

Notes (before they hit the sampler) can be routed in several ways - I demonstrated one using the notes MIDI channel. Now as it happens just before its mixed with any currently playing audio you can modify a notes audio - but only gain or pitch - with the available APIs, but there is no API for settings its pan... so you are out of luck there.

You have an edge case here, you can ask @Christoph-Hart if adding an API call e.g. Message.setPan(value) is even possible - and it might be a nice thing to have. But if you want to do what you want within the current HISE engine I cant think of another way - always keen to learn if you or anyone else has a solution....

@Christoph-Hart said in How to control Flex AHDSR Decay time with Velocity?:

Should I make the sustain modulation dynamic so that you can modulate a voice while it's playing?

No, better to think about doing MSEG envelopes....

@inlandempire

okay your call:

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@inlandempire cant you just use two samplers one panned left one panned right and then alternate passing notes into each one....by say modifying their MIDI channel and having a MIDI channel filter in each sampler...

@JamesC or... instead of coding up your own sine based LFO, you could just use an LFO, and in your timer query its value, then you get all the LFO shapes, (including hand drawn) can set the timer to synced tempo, have retrigger etc....

Here's a product that does just that:

https://www.tracktion.com/products/atmosia

Check the walkthru 1 video at 6:15 onwards for a demo...