@MikeB -- Lindon, Hull UK, Audio Developer, before that I worked in Telecommunications (real time and all that - not as complicated as it sounds) and before that I was a record producer....before that I was a starving/failing musician.

So for those of us who have spent the required hard-yards in the sampling business we have a very specific idea of what "legato" means, and frankly this aint what "modern" synths behave like. Stiil we are often asked to recreate this "synth-based" glide portamento legato, what th ***k else you want to call it...thing. And in my experience its a royal PITA to do....

Essentially notes glide between any currently held note on play or release as long as something is held down...and if a truck load of notes are held then they glide in played order....(where truck load == 2+)

HISE is not best set up for this sort of thing - or so I thought.

So after about 6 goes at this and also after the realisation that I really really need a holiday. I think I have it (or a close approximation of it). As I wouldn't want anyone else to have to go through the outrageous process I went thru to get here I decided to release it. So here it is - again MIT licensed so all yours to use...

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Frankly I never want to have to do this again......so please dont ask for amendments, you will have to make them yourself, and if you find a bug - again you will have to fix it yourself - please post your resulting code here.

Meanwhile I'm off to Italy see you in a month, well from next week anyway...

@Lindon ....

Feature Request
@Christoph-Hart - Please can we have bus effects (send and receive) as per this discussion :

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/1983/feature-request-the-case-for-bus-containers

-- wow I just re-read the thread I pointed to - I've been a pita about this .....sorry.

So happy holidays to everyone who has them at this time of year.. Anther great year for HISE and this community, tho I did get too many t-shirts this year...

Feature Request

MIDI out.

......Ok that's me done for 2023, so wishing you and yours a safe and festive holiday season and a prosperous, healthy and happy 2024...

Thanks to all of you for making it a great community..... now where did I put that T-Shirt?

So I've seen a few posts here asking how to "do" an LED-style control, and there's been a few answers - all of which seemed to require adding in a png for the LED itself.

So as I needed (or wanted) one of these that used vector drawing, and one that had some level of "red-line" warning as well as momentary peak measurement too I coded one up. You might want to use it - or adapt it to your needs.

So caveat no.1 : as @ustk has said elsewhere - this is not really a gain meter - its approximates one as it uses 100 milliseconds between each measure - so it may miss some peaks. But in any case:

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I'm pretty sure the code could do with re-factoring so I'm always interested in a better version if you want to comment or contribute...

...sliding in late... happy holidays everyone...

Happy holidays everyone...have a fun safe time.

@David-Healey yeah I'm sure that was the original intent, but if we all could be bothered to look back at my previous post about how I really didn't like expansions taking the full interface he pretty explicitly say it should be easy to build a "loader" widget and copy it into all the expansions, so I think I'm on safe ground here assuming that the loader should work as outlined above...

@David-Healey Im using this:

to unload the expansion...

@dannytaurus well good or not..it works....

@dannytaurus said in Full Expansions again....MASSIVE problems.....Warning swearing in the message....:

@Lindon From David's recent discussion about an unload/back button, I think you're right.

However, my expansion-based project will need to work like yours - freely swapping expansions from a visible grid/list of available ones.

So working on a work around ---- where I use a file to Request the load of an expansion:

The player checks the request file every time it loads....if the request == NONE it just sets itself up as nomal... but if it == anything else - it loads the requested expansion...

So the expansions themselves now no longer load other expansions, they just make a request and unload themselves...back to the Player who handles the load of the new expansion...

its not great, in fact its a cludge, and Im about 20% of the way thru building it...

@dannytaurus said in Full Expansions again....MASSIVE problems.....Warning swearing in the message....:

@Lindon Is Engine.setCurrentExpansion useful here? What's the difference?

https://docs.hise.dev/scripting/scripting-api/engine/index.html#setcurrentexpansion

I have no idea what the difference is between Engine and ExpansionHandler versions of this call...

@HISEnberg said in Full Expansions again....MASSIVE problems.....Warning swearing in the message....:

@Lindon Given that Rhapsody uses it (and I see some people posting issues with it actually, is this the same issue?), would david's system be an option for you here?

I think Rhapsody only lets you load an expansion and then return to the player to load the next one, so the stack doesnt get corrupted

@dannytaurus said in Full Expansions again....MASSIVE problems.....Warning swearing in the message....:

Load exp1: pointer overload sees currentExpansion == nullptr, snapshots the base as default. Correct. exp1 loads.
Load exp2 directly: name overload does currentExpansion = nullptr; without notifying, so the chain is still exp1's content. It then calls the
pointer overload, which now sees nullptr and calls setNewDefault(...) snapshotting the current chain = exp1. The saved "base default" is now silently overwritten with exp1's preset. exp2 loads.
Unload exp2 (setCurrentExpansion("")): DefaultHandler restores defaultPreset, which is now exp1's tree — but exp1 is no longer the active expansion, so its sample/resource references resolve against the wrong (or no) expansion. Result: the corrupted "nothing loaded, nothing working" UI.

Almost exactly this yes.....

@dannytaurus said in Full Expansions again....MASSIVE problems.....Warning swearing in the message....:

@Lindon So you're manually unloading each expansion before loading the next one? Or are you relying on a HISE mechanism to unload/load?

I've tried both ways ...neither work. I suspect calling eh.setExapnsion("") from within the expansion itself(whihc is what i would need to do) is def. a no go... and myexperience is this is the case...it no fixy the problemy...

Full Expansions and the Expansion Handler are frankly a fucking nightmare...

OK so I have a player.... and two expansions:

These are listed in the right hand side in a viewport....this viewport is repeated INSIDE each expansion....

So... start the player - and we get both expansions showing up correctly in the right hand side...

Double click expansion 1 and it loads (correctly)
Click its unload button and it unloads back to the player (correctly)
Double click expansion 2 and it loads(Correctly)
Click its unload button and it unloads back to the player (correctly)

OK...

Double click expansion 1 and it loads correctly...
Whilst in expansion 1 double click expansion 2, and it loads correctly.....
Now click the unload of expansion 2....and.....we should go back to the player, but we dont we get:

UI mess....not the UI of the Player, but instead the UI of Expansion 1.....(I think)

How am I unloading the expansions I hear you ask... like this:

eh.setCurrentExpansion("");

So it seems the expansion handler is stacking up expansions as they load, and then unloading to the previously loaded expansion (but this is a guess..)

ANYONE, anyone have any idea how to make this .....work... ???

@Chazrox thanks - yeah I will give a hand-coded version a spin...