I finally released Poeesia, this choir instrument I've been working on for years.

It sings a poem in Estonian, has a bunch of fun Estonian vowels like Ü Ä and Õ, and polyphonic legato, all of which combined made it totally impossible to build in Kontakt. Thanks to Christoph for making this possible, and thanks to all you fine forum folk for the help!

ivyaudio.com

I removed all the swear words from the repo but there there's still lots of spaghetti, so don't look too closely please: https://codeberg.org/IvyAudio

If anyone wants a copy just send me a DM :)

@ustk Awesome, that looks like it'll work great, though I'm getting slight flashbacks to similar control-layering jankyness in Kontakt.

For anyone reading this later, the solution is to script a panel to have mouse interaction slider behavior, or to use an invisible slider for mouse interaction and the panel only for drawing.

You can change which image is loaded using ScriptPanel.loadImage, and update the drawing of the panel with Graphics.drawImage.

David's tutorial covers a lot of relevant stuff here

I don't know what the situation is with IPP now in HISE, but the old dropbox link expired so here's an internetarchive link just in case: https://archive.org/details/intel-ipp

@Elezeid HISE projects, including sample maps, are trackable in git. It's well worth using and has saved me repeating work several times.

Making a value persistent can still be very tricky to figure out in HISE as compared to Kontakt.

For integers or booleans, you can use a knob or button, which have saveInPreset enabled by default, and use the setValue() and getValue() methods to store and retrieve the value.

In some cases though you inevitably need to store text or an object.

The trick is to create a panel, set storeInPreset to true, then store your object to the panel using setValue(), not panel.data. Only the former is persistent.

Here is a stripped down snippet with a simple example:

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ALSO: if the data you're trying to store contains any undefined values, it will appear to work correctly, but will restore to a value of 0.0.

This should eventually be added to the documentation. Just need to find a place to put it.

I started the slider as LaF but moved to a panel when I couldn't figure out an elegant way to do the animation, interesting that that's the one part not achievable with LaF.

Coming from Kontakt, the ability to have smooth transitions and (gasp) actual hover states for all controls is a huge win. The average user probably can't articulate the difference, but I think in testing a UI with smoothed hover states would get more positive feedback. When trying to sell something new to a group of people who have been used to Kontakt for potentially decades, I'm convinced this kind of UI polish can help make a HISE library stand out as better in every way than what people have been used to.

I believe I used a separate label so the text wouldn't be part of the hover target.

In context:

Easy to customize!

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@graysan Have you tested loading the .vst in another DAW?

Dropping samples into a sampler works fine, but dropping MIDI into the HISE controller or a MIDI Player doesn't work.

As a workaround I can right click the MIDI processor to open a file picker, select the file, then drag the file from the MIDI processor to the HISE controller.

@Morphoice The solution I used was to keep track of all note on events, then if you ever receive two note ons in a row on the same note you know you've received some illegal MIDI.

It's pretty easy if on noteOn you check and store the event ID to an array (or MIDIlist I suppose) like

onNoteOn {
	if (events[Message.getNoteNumber()]){
		Console.print(You've just received some illegal MIDI!);
	} else {
		events[Message.getNoteNumber()] = Message.getEventId();
	}
}

onRelease {
	events[Message.getNoteNumber()] = undefined;
}

How you handle the lawbreakers is up to you, but at a minimum it's best to stop everything on that note, as this situation breaks the assumption that every note on will have a corresponding note off.

In my case I'm using artificial events, so stopping them all is easy. I don't actually know how you'd go about stopping the normal events.

Give Synth.allNotesOff() a try, I know that doesn't affect notes with a timestamp in the future but I assume it works on stuck regular events.

It would be nice if we got this built in similar to setfixnoteonafternoteoff

I'll add to the documentation eventually, but this might help anybody trying to set this up.

HISE and Juce will segfault without an X11 server running, so just calling them from the command line over ssh will probably look like things are broken. You should run {HISE_BINARY} --help to check if things are working.

This is my build.sh script, which I put in a Packaging folder in the HISE project directory:

#!/bin/bash
parent_path=$( cd "$(dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}")" ; pwd -P ) #Makes it so you can call the script from anywhere
cd "$parent_path"
{HISE Binary} export ../XmlPresetBackups/ProjectName.xml -t:'instrument' -p:'VST' -a:'x64'
cd "../Binaries"
source ./batchCompileLinux.sh
scp -r "$parent_path/../Binaries/Builds/LinuxMakefile/build/ProjectName.vst3/" simon@{laptop_ip}:/home/simon/.vst3/ #Copies the vst to my laptop

Question can't be empty.

@Chazrox I use image magic in the terminal. With imagemagic installed, I just

cd /path/to/folder/with/frames
convert -append *.png spriteSheet.png

@Robert-Puza Any time you are compiling something on Linux and you get a "package not found" error or something of that sort, the first thing to do is check if your distro has a slightly different name for the package and install it. Some distros include "lib" at the start of library packages, some don't, sometimes there's a - in one distro but not in another. This is why instructions don't always include one line you can copy paste to install dependencies: each distro needs a slightly different list.

As you're on Mint, you use apt. I would type "apt search webkit2gtk" and see what comes up. I believe Mint does have the package, but the correct name is actually "libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev", which is why it didn't get installed when you copied the line from the readme.

Either way, using David's fork is a good idea.

I would really just prefer a way to use an external editor. After several weeks of intense scripting work using only the HISE editor, the low contrast color scheme, lack of syntax highlighting, lack of keyboard shortcuts, slower response time, and many other quirks make me far prefer the (sadly proprietary) Sublime text.

I don't doubt that it will eventually be on par, but for the sake of getting work done I really need to be in Sublime at the moment. If the fastest way to reload the script is to load the xml I'll just keep doing that.

@Robert-Puza You don't have to re-compile, you can just copy the "HISE Standalone" executable. You only need the source when exporting a plugin or compiling HISE itself.

@Robert-Puza I don't know of any third party software that works with ncw. You'll need to load the library in Kontakt, and go file > save as and uncheck "Compress Samples". The good news is Kontakt works well with WINE.

Mostly I find the script editors are a little slow. It's difficult to quantify but typing, navigating, and selecting text definitely feels less responsive than in a typical text editor. When typing, some characters appear with a microdelay.

If the ScriptWatchTable is onscreen, general performance gets worse.

Resizing panels is verrry slow, but I think that's been the case forever.

Dragging in the mapping editor is usually quite slow, the selection refreshes maybe three times a second. Releasing the mouse during a selection sometimes causes HISE to freeze. The number of samples mapped doesn't really seem to have an effect. -- I just noticed this appears to be affected by the area of the mapping window.

For me, with OpenGL enabled the application is next to unusable, all clicks take seconds to register if they do at all.

So, how's performance for you all?

Fedora 41, Wayland session, i7 4790k, RX 6600 XT. Build is from Master, built in a Debian 11 VM.

Ah it's a permissions thing. If you go into settings and allow full disk access to either Xcode or Projucer (I just enabled both), it builds and opens properly.

Thank you David. Providing a snippet is above and beyond, as usual.

@Lindon In Kontakt, a velocity curve does not work well if you go to extremes like I described. There is no way that I am aware of to decouple the velocity that is sent to the sample map from the velocity sent to the vel > volume modulator.

Imagine this were a user-drawn velocity curve taking the lowest dynamic layer and spreading it across the full velocity range of the keyboard:

In a situation like this, your input with 127 values gets quantized to something like 10-20 values.

With the HISE global modulator, the velocity sent to the sample map is different from the velocity sent to the volume modulator, which is exactly what I was after.