Is anyone else able to reproduce this on MacOS? Just curious if it is a me thing or not. I can't think why it would be mind you.

I'm getting this on MacOS Sequoia 15.5 and all DAWs.

This is the most basic example I can come up with.
Here is the project snippet.

HiseSnippet 1352.3oc2XstaaaCElJNLKwYEXsqCcX.aPHX+vcnKvxw4FFFpy8ZrlDiXuzh8mBZIZahHQJHQklrg8rs8HrGg8Hz2fsCEssnRbbSMlaSW9QP3gmC4QmKeeGlFQBWZbrHBYUr0kgTj0mhadIW1amdDFGUeWj08vs8I7yB8S5BR19xPRbL0CYYU3.kJVKLKJ8m27zsIfhtzLQHzoBlK84r.lLSZiZ+Dy2eehGsEKvP6p0p6J36H7EIf6T.WFERbOizkdDQo1LXzyHw8PVeGd8Moq2d8UqtQkUHa533VYSO2pUJux5q5Uo5Zq0tryJqTci1qirlaOOlTD0TRjzXj0raK7trYOwq45K3TVLqsOUsvA0DtYs38E9dpOQkTzN8X9dMFDmhQvg1HKpUPG0dH9PlGan7rn2mktgclElAPqYx6dEx4dNltWYC2aDtjkgKMq1ktOtoaDKTlsixeVDWmKoQcHPdxzUz5hlokEdGAnAWtb.4L59QvhgVTZsxkehM7qG+CEKB4pXo84jH6mQh7bEPDaO94TeQH8PgWhOA9vbr+Q6zxok6RkM8Ex8eYokFi5KAG7X1d4XpbuNcntxRKocXPminxWKhNCLsSB2UxDbaA+HgjdLuziK9aEWn3uWz9pa0oyH2S8oGI78oQibaU8Zz3LrDOInMM5IPXwOgNTQHmjOQiu4DsYcnqNSXnnfWmyjGGR42T0Ipe5C9qet9tDIQUczWFnWHMRxTtf0tzygdScsxB3cowmIEgP240JjfR3AY.y5ZU2e+MfXPthIUACOlIuzDc3+rh8aqKdebClzs2n8wYFgOBQpogO1Gh3dXcoalCNKd+WNcvCLu940W+WgOvWzl3mEnfZBvSnZbgut+11C22dnBNiA0+utsn9g2ZT+q1rL6sqY4s.ZO6cNP6aac7mesTS76wtsbTK8qk9F7PPZ6AnzYdW+5owfimy8OTvEg8DblqYIzITYDqaWn5zb.CVnvmDciez8oBPVO.eU5g2kVamoO7Sg+eC+bhHQx3cOj.IwK.5tiRBZB82tT314bpuhBzZFEYkdcY0ZUDnIk6kt3efe5uoiZsU+McFrIRe3FLbbZJaLx5SZQhf4Mp6o5czpYaT7A+4vzrxmpy8nWn+TLxJKhKu7pqrYUXnRzVIWzWo4veuyxk0BFpJFTUY64.2pFApbtLvizYfEwufbNMcbnz3+WjttiHJv9.J.yd8VioNT6wtRvEZEQ3wghXpi4I2jFvZI3z3bRuhEUFoE4jtKUlvyezZQ4zREJ1GBEF5MesABqXJrAgm6vf04NoCUUbCV92OcONApYaRgubuiicg.SJFkApQiD+X5KXdxdNlFlIthoXErFjCyAVYUXZvXM2GsLVe.GNLGc0BC7wlrfPe5.hnTe7AvHucHI9xARmXVoQ9AskTBOdMSxCqcB0mRhMZG+1ZOGlthDowilnXgy67qBGY95KwZ20VgWX+w6P8SYV0bwyhCdkslfI+zOih1YJMyyNIwRQfhqaFL5T0yNyAIGHDxd.Ubdlf50tJj0jONT5cdBg2kpB004gIR8JKbfI8Uo+LfXfLWpVFgoUgXIMrI6Wy0GzhdgDn0SUJRQep3WjJ9EfFJQdS2ya9ib2ip+bb2C7L4XJ.d1P.QVndZq3egFITuP7Nza3FOX6gYEZ2MaZeDFXdqXm14Z+gYf32GSj993NBHtQhW4p+2MovjlOUB7cyS+ujt.f7.qscPmeUrf.XBgW45l+ntlgUlTCWYRMr5jZ3pSpgqMoFt9jZ3FucCUCvsUBfkq6MfAYarW5qarrzyvl1lf9W75mYoO

Make sure to compile DSP networks. Then re-load HISE and compile the project to create a VST3.

The script does this:

const var HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1 = Synth.getSlotFX("HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1");
HardcodedEnvelopeModulator1.setEffect("ScriptEnvNetwork");

Essentially what we have is:

• Global modulator container
• Hardcoded envelope modulator - with a ScriptEnvNetwork loaded into it (consisting of an oscillator, sig2mod, and peak node) compiled to 1 channel (mod sources need 1 channel from what I can tell)
• Waveform generator
• Matrix Modulator assigned to pitch of the waveform generator.

The interface script sets the HardcodedEnvelopeModulator to the correct network by using the setEffect() method.

The HISE project works fine on Windows and MacOS. The plugin will compile on Windows and MacOS.

But on MacOS, the plugin will crash the host on plugin instantiation. Seems to be a null pointer or dangling pointer issue. The crash does not occur on Windows, from what I can tell.

@Christoph-Hart

@Christoph-Hart Yep, this is fixed now. Thanks Christoph!

Content.makeFrontInterface(600, 600);
reg builder = Synth.createBuilder();

inline function createGlobalModulationSources()
{
	local modmatrix_idx = builder.create(builder.SoundGenerators.GlobalModulatorContainer,
								"Global Mod Container",
								0,
								builder.ChainIndexes.Direct);

	local globalModulatorsChainIndex = 1;
	builder.create(builder.Modulators.Velocity,
						"Velocity",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);
	
	builder.create(builder.Modulators.KeyNumber,
						"Key Number",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);
	
	builder.create(builder.Modulators.FlexAHDSR,
						"Env 1",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.FlexAHDSR,
						"Env 2",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.FlexAHDSR,
						"Env 3",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MacroModulator,
						"Macro 1",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MacroModulator,
						"Macro 2",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MacroModulator,
						"Macro 3",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MacroModulator,
						"Macro 4",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.Random,
						"Random",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.PitchWheel,
						"Pitch Wheel",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MidiController,
						"Mod Wheel",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MidiController,
						"Midi CC 1",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MidiController,
						"Midi CC 2",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.MidiController,
						"Midi CC 3",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.HardcodedEnvelopeModulator,
						"Custom LFO 1",
						modmatrix_idx,
						globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.HardcodedEnvelopeModulator,
	 					"Custom LFO 2",
	 					modmatrix_idx,
	 					globalModulatorsChainIndex);

	builder.create(builder.Modulators.HardcodedEnvelopeModulator,
	 					"Custom LFO 3",
	 					modmatrix_idx,
	 					globalModulatorsChainIndex);
};

builder.clear();
createGlobalModulationSources();
builder.flush();

If I do the above, then HISE will crash every single time.

If I remove the last two custom LFO's (or just comment them out) then it does not crash.

My extra definitions are:

HISE_NUM_SCRIPTNODE_FX_MODS=24
HISE_NUM_POLYPHONIC_SCRIPTNODE_FX_MODS=24
NUM_HARDCODED_FX_MODS=24
NUM_HARDCODED_POLY_FX_MODS=24

If I run a debug build I get the following pop-up in VS2022:

And I basically get locked in this cycle:

Given it is saying that an array subscript is out of range, I can only assume that either I'm reading out of the range of an array, or that the definitions aren't being honoured in some way. A hardcoded limit on the number of modulators perhaps??

If I comment out everything except the 3 'Custom LFO' creation steps, then it still crashes... this implies that the crash is something to do with creating multiple HardcodedEnvelopeModulator objects.

@Christoph-Hart

@DanH said in Matrix Modulation Feedback:

So what exactly is the MatrixTargetID for?

One use is for linking a UI parameter to multiple matrix modulator targets. In such a situation, you don't need to assign the processorId nor the parameterId - you can just name your UI control whatever you want, and then make sure that any matrix modulator you want it to connect to, is also named the same. You can edit the name by checking out the edit ranges section in the matrix modulator.

It is right there. Hover over the lower highlighted section and you'll see a horizontal arrow dragger mouse cursor.

Confirmed here on MacOS too. Crash log:

-------------------------------------
Translated Report (Full Report Below)
-------------------------------------

Process:               HISE [88903]
Path:                  /Users/USER/*/HISE.app/Contents/MacOS/HISE
Identifier:            com.hartinstruments.HISEStandalone
Version:               4.1.0 (4.1.0)
Code Type:             ARM-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        launchd [1]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2025-07-25 19:24:55.1964 +0100
OS Version:            macOS 15.5 (24F74)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        CCB1FD68-DBB1-BA98-C0F7-4D9C638A5DAA

Sleep/Wake UUID:       DF6D33B0-69EB-4F03-953C-4FD81CFEA42C

Time Awake Since Boot: 660000 seconds
Time Since Wake:       1429 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        16  Convert Samplemaps to Wavetable

Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000008
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000008

Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11
Terminating Process:   exc handler [88903]

VM Region Info: 0x8 is not in any region.  Bytes before following region: 4298080248
      REGION TYPE                    START - END         [ VSIZE] PRT/MAX SHRMOD  REGION DETAIL
      UNUSED SPACE AT START
--->  
      __TEXT                      1002f8000-102164000    [ 30.4M] r-x/r-x SM=COW  /Users/USER/*/HISE.app/Contents/MacOS/HISE

Thread 0:: JUCE Message Thread Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   HISE                          	       0x101b04c94 juce::blurSingleChannelImage(juce::Image&, int) + 416
1   HISE                          	       0x101b049c8 juce::DropShadow::drawForImage(juce::Graphics&, juce::Image const&) const + 212
2   HISE                          	       0x101b0485c juce::DropShadowEffect::applyEffect(juce::Image&, juce::Graphics&, float, float) + 164
3   HISE                          	       0x101b4e8cc juce::Component::paintEntireComponent(juce::Graphics&, bool) + 580
4   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
5   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
6   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
7   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
8   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
9   HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
10  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
11  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
12  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
13  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
14  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
15  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
16  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
17  HISE                          	       0x101b39bf8 juce::Component::paintComponentAndChildren(juce::Graphics&) + 1172
18  HISE                          	       0x101b4e62c juce::ComponentPeer::handlePaint(juce::LowLevelGraphicsContext&) + 308
19  HISE                          	       0x101b46d20 juce::JuceNSViewClass::drawRect(objc_object*, objc_selector*, CGRect) + 340
20  AppKit                        	       0x196ed6d18 _NSViewDrawRect + 160
21  AppKit                        	       0x1978ecc74 -[NSView _recursive:displayRectIgnoringOpacity:inContext:stopAtLayerBackedViews:] + 1084
22  AppKit                        	       0x196ed670c -[NSView(NSLayerKitGlue) _drawViewBackingLayer:inContext:drawingHandler:] + 536
23  AppKit                        	       0x197593a64 -[NSViewBackingLayer drawInContext:] + 56
24  AppKit                        	       0x197209ab8 0x196d89000 + 4721336
25  AppKit                        	       0x1971f1fdc 0x196d89000 + 4624348
26  AppKit                        	       0x1971ed150 0x196d89000 + 4604240
27  AppKit                        	       0x1971f1cac 0x196d89000 + 4623532
28  AppKit                        	       0x1971ef6b0 0x196d89000 + 4613808
29  AppKit                        	       0x19727a574 0x196d89000 + 5182836
30  AppKit                        	       0x19727abdc 0x196d89000 + 5184476
31  AppKit                        	       0x197593690 -[NSViewBackingLayer display] + 1268
32  QuartzCore                    	       0x19bf0e0b4 CA::Layer::display_if_needed(CA::Transaction*) + 748
33  QuartzCore                    	       0x19c0a2464 CA::Context::commit_transaction(CA::Transaction*, double, double*) + 492
34  QuartzCore                    	       0x19beef3a8 CA::Transaction::commit() + 644
35  AppKit                        	       0x196ee6024 __62+[CATransaction(NSCATransaction) NS_setFlushesWithDisplayLink]_block_invoke + 272
36  AppKit                        	       0x19792f4d4 ___NSRunLoopObserverCreateWithHandler_block_invoke + 64
37  CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9d098 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_AN_OBSERVER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 36
38  CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9cf80 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 536
39  CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9c5f0 __CFRunLoopRun + 784
40  CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9bc58 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 572
41  HIToolbox                     	       0x19e93027c RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 324
42  HIToolbox                     	       0x19e9334e8 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 676
43  HIToolbox                     	       0x19eabe484 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 76
44  AppKit                        	       0x196dc3ab4 _DPSNextEvent + 684
45  AppKit                        	       0x1977625b0 -[NSApplication(NSEventRouting) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 688
46  AppKit                        	       0x196db6c64 -[NSApplication run] + 480
47  HISE                          	       0x100312de0 main + 296
48  dyld                          	       0x192a12b98 start + 6076

Thread 1:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb6c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 2:: Sample Loading Thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d743cc __psynch_cvwait + 8
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db30e0 _pthread_cond_wait + 984
2   libc++.1.dylib                	       0x192ce3330 std::__1::condition_variable::__do_timed_wait(std::__1::unique_lock<std::__1::mutex>&, std::__1::chrono::time_point<std::__1::chrono::system_clock, std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l>>>) + 104
3   HISE                          	       0x101a2ef30 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 152
4   HISE                          	       0x10162748c hise::SampleThreadPool::run() + 60
5   HISE                          	       0x101a411a4 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 284
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 3:: Javascript Thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d743cc __psynch_cvwait + 8
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db30e0 _pthread_cond_wait + 984
2   libc++.1.dylib                	       0x192ce3330 std::__1::condition_variable::__do_timed_wait(std::__1::unique_lock<std::__1::mutex>&, std::__1::chrono::time_point<std::__1::chrono::system_clock, std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l>>>) + 104
3   HISE                          	       0x101a2ef30 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 152
4   HISE                          	       0x100d6626c hise::JavascriptThreadPool::run() + 92
5   HISE                          	       0x101a411a4 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 284
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 4:: caulk.messenger.shared:17
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70bb0 semaphore_wait_trap + 8
1   caulk                         	       0x19e417cc8 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 224
2   caulk                         	       0x19e417b70 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 32
3   caulk                         	       0x19e417844 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple<caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*>>>(void*) + 96
4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 5:: caulk.messenger.shared:high
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70bb0 semaphore_wait_trap + 8
1   caulk                         	       0x19e417cc8 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 224
2   caulk                         	       0x19e417b70 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 32
3   caulk                         	       0x19e417844 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple<caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*>>>(void*) + 96
4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 6:: com.apple.audio.IOThread.client
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70bbc semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   caulk                         	       0x19e4342f8 caulk::mach::semaphore::wait_signal_or_error(caulk::mach::semaphore&) + 36
2   CoreAudio                     	       0x195ca2f58 HALC_ProxyIOContext::IOWorkLoop() + 5276
3   CoreAudio                     	       0x195ca13a8 invocation function for block in HALC_ProxyIOContext::HALC_ProxyIOContext(unsigned int, unsigned int) + 172
4   CoreAudio                     	       0x195e4b37c HALC_IOThread::Entry(void*) + 88
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 7:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70c34 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d833a0 mach_msg2_internal + 76
2   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d79764 mach_msg_overwrite + 484
3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70fa8 mach_msg + 24
4   CoreMIDI                      	       0x1af42deac XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 104
5   CoreMIDI                      	       0x1af44f740 MIDIProcess::MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 148
6   CoreMIDI                      	       0x1af44476c CADeprecated::XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 48
7   CoreMIDI                      	       0x1af44ee44 CADeprecated::CAPThread::Entry(CADeprecated::CAPThread*) + 96
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
9   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 8:: Directory Scanner
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d743cc __psynch_cvwait + 8
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db30e0 _pthread_cond_wait + 984
2   libc++.1.dylib                	       0x192ce3330 std::__1::condition_variable::__do_timed_wait(std::__1::unique_lock<std::__1::mutex>&, std::__1::chrono::time_point<std::__1::chrono::system_clock, std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l>>>) + 104
3   HISE                          	       0x101a2ef30 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 152
4   HISE                          	       0x101a2eb90 juce::TimeSliceThread::run() + 128
5   HISE                          	       0x101a411a4 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 284
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 9:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb6c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 10:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb6c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 11:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb6c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 12:
0   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb6c start_wqthread + 0

Thread 13:: com.apple.NSEventThread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70c34 mach_msg2_trap + 8
1   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d833a0 mach_msg2_internal + 76
2   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d79764 mach_msg_overwrite + 484
3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70fa8 mach_msg + 24
4   CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9de7c __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 160
5   CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9c798 __CFRunLoopRun + 1208
6   CoreFoundation                	       0x192e9bc58 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 572
7   AppKit                        	       0x196ee77fc _NSEventThread + 140
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
9   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 14:: JUCE Timer
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d743cc __psynch_cvwait + 8
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db30e0 _pthread_cond_wait + 984
2   libc++.1.dylib                	       0x192ce3330 std::__1::condition_variable::__do_timed_wait(std::__1::unique_lock<std::__1::mutex>&, std::__1::chrono::time_point<std::__1::chrono::system_clock, std::__1::chrono::duration<long long, std::__1::ratio<1l, 1000000000l>>>) + 104
3   HISE                          	       0x101a2ef30 juce::WaitableEvent::wait(int) const + 152
4   HISE                          	       0x101abb2d4 juce::Timer::TimerThread::run() + 188
5   HISE                          	       0x101a411a4 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 284
6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
7   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 15:: caulk::deferred_logger
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	       0x192d70bb0 semaphore_wait_trap + 8
1   caulk                         	       0x19e417cc8 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 224
2   caulk                         	       0x19e417b70 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 32
3   caulk                         	       0x19e417844 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple<caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple<caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*>>>(void*) + 96
4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8

Thread 16 Crashed:: Convert Samplemaps to Wavetable
0   HISE                          	       0x10099c410 hise::getMemoryBlockFromWavetableData(juce::ValueTree const&, int) + 200
1   HISE                          	       0x10099b380 hise::WavetableSound::WavetableSound(juce::ValueTree const&, hise::Processor*) + 512
2   HISE                          	       0x1009faf30 hise::SampleMapToWavetableConverter::rebuildPreviewBuffersInternal() + 1904
3   HISE                          	       0x100440588 std::__1::__function::__func<hise::WavetableConverterDialog::loadSampleMap(juce::ValueTree const&)::'lambda'(), std::__1::allocator<hise::WavetableConverterDialog::loadSampleMap(juce::ValueTree const&)::'lambda'()>, void ()>::operator()() + 1292
4   HISE                          	       0x10044a2d4 std::__1::__function::__func<hise::WavetableConverterDialog::run()::'lambda'(std::__1::function<void ()>&), std::__1::allocator<hise::WavetableConverterDialog::run()::'lambda'(std::__1::function<void ()>&)>, bool (std::__1::function<void ()>&)>::operator()(std::__1::function<void ()>&) + 152
5   HISE                          	       0x100447994 hise::WavetableConverterDialog::run() + 684
6   HISE                          	       0x100533018 hise::DialogWindowWithBackgroundThread::LoadingThread::run() + 32
7   HISE                          	       0x101a411a4 juce::threadEntryProc(void*) + 284
8   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192db2c0c _pthread_start + 136
9   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	       0x192dadb80 thread_start + 8


Thread 16 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit):
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   x16: 0x00000b0000000b00  x17: 0x00000b0000000b02  x18: 0x0000000000000000  x19: 0x0000000171c72c30
   x20: 0x0000000171c727f0  x21: 0x0000000171c72c30  x22: 0x0000000171c727e8  x23: 0x0000000171c72748
   x24: 0x0000000000000000  x25: 0x000000010881eea0  x26: 0x0000000108315c10  x27: 0x0000600003a460c8
   x28: 0x0000000108315d80   fp: 0x0000000171c727b0   lr: 0x000000010099c40c
    sp: 0x0000000171c72740   pc: 0x000000010099c410 cpsr: 0x60001000
   far: 0x0000000000000008  esr: 0x92000006 (Data Abort) byte read Translation fault

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@d-healey Sorry, do you mean the feature isn't ready yet? I'll go and dig out the meet up video. I can join those in the future now I'm no longer at inMusic !!

Hey - are there any good tutorials that can get a beginner into this complex group editing stuff???

@griffinboy said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

@Christoph-Hart

free / rand – Google Drive

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I thought the difference was significant enough for me to want to model it.
Then again, I am a perfectionist when it comes to audio things like this.
It might not be significant to others.

But in some cases I do prefer the free running over random phase. The phasing in the highs has a clear pattern which your brain can follow in free running, and I find that pleasing. Wheras random phase gives a chaotic and hard to follow pattern.

IMHO, it is extremely noticeable and having a way to support that behaviour would be excellent.

@DanH Is your network compiled as polyphonic?

@Christoph-Hart said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

@modularsamples said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

Some way to have polyphonic, free running modulators would be awesome. It's a really nice effect.

what is a polyphonic, free running modulator? polyphony is tied to voices, so when no voices are rendered, nothing is there to be done...

Only thing I can think of is, having the modulator continue to render in the background so that when the voice is re-triggered again, the modulator phase picks up the latest "newest" value, but still on a per voice basis.

But I would guess this is a pretty edge case thing.

@Christoph-Hart Yeah my thought was to built a custom LFO that could offer:

• Monophonic VS polyphonic (is this even possible?)
• Free-running VS sync via sub-divisions
• Retrigger on/off

That along with the usual suspects (shapes, frequency, gain, phase, etc) could be a powerful thing.

@Orvillain Actually, I guess this would be a custom script modulator, with the oscillator inside a no_midi container.... ??

Hey, sorry I know this is an old thread.

But how can I make some global modulators retrigger, and some of them not??

Ideally we'd be able to submit snippets directly to the snippet browser, but I understand that could cause quite a quality issue.

@Christoph-Hart Ahhhhh, this was the missing key:
set the Table Index parameter to 100%

Everything else you mentioned I was already doing or already tried. I hacked the input and output ranges instead of just setting the table index to 100% as its base. doh.

My UI control was always pointing just at the matrixTargetId.

Assigning a matrix modulator to the wavetable table index seems a little odd....

Here's the first case:

Assigning it to the Table Index parameter (unipolar), no matter what ranges I set, it never seems to adjust the Table Index parameter.

Second case. If I want unipolar control I have to setup the matrix modulator to control Table Index Bipolar, like this:

If I set the input and output range to 0.0 - 1.0, then the modulator can be bipolar, going from -100% to 100% ... which in the case of a wavetable, results in half of the range basically making no audible difference when used as a static value. I guess it would make a difference if you had a bunch of stuff setup to modulate all at once.

Anyway, I just found the setup a little odd is all.

@Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

@Orvillain haha, I think you became victim of the worst UX in HISE, but since I crammed that feature in last minute I haven't spent too many brain cells on how to present that feature :)

You must not set the ID of the matrix modulator to the same string (the ID must always be unique), instead, you need to enter the ID you want to use for both matrixes in the hidden and unlabeled text editor that shows up when you click on "Edit range properties" next to the button. This will be set to the ID as a default value but if you change it there, it will override the matrix target ID that is otherwise taken from the module ID as default behaviour.

Yeah that's what I did!

Snippet is working on Windows here anyway. I think I must've just forgot to compile when I tried it for the first time.

Cheers!

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Quick snippet for multiple matrix modulators linked to a single knob. It works on MacOS. The UI knob controls the two matrix modulators, both given the id 'MTX'.

I tried this on Windows earlier, and it didn't work. Possibly I screwed something up. If anyone here is on Windows and could try this with the latest development and let me know, I'd be grateful. Otherwise I'll check it tomorrow!