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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @Christoph Hart
      last edited by d.healey

      @Christoph-Hart I'm not seeing it

      Edit: Ah I think I need to build with some newer commits, but that webview stuff is still enabled and giving me build errors.

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
        last edited by d.healey

        @Christoph-Hart I've just been attempting to open some of my older projects in the latest develop build of HISE.

        Any projects that are using Group Xfade immediately segfault when I play a note. I believe this is probably related to the new sample mapping stuff.

        Here's the stack trace.

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        Group index is -1, might be the issue

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey
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          If I move group += 1 from line 1551 to line 1558 it seems to solve the issue - not sure if this is correct though?

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          • OrvillainO
            Orvillain
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            This all sounds quite exciting, but I also don't really get it right now. 🤣

            All I would say is, I find the system of disabling disabling RR's with enable.RoiundRobin(false) and then writing custom RR logic and using setActiveGroup(int) to be very intuitive.

            I don't entirely agree that "improvements" are always better than backwards compatibility - especially if intuitiveness is affected.

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart @Orvillain
              last edited by

              @Orvillain you can still do that. It just adds another layer on top of that so that you can implement more complex layouts more easily plus there are a few new functions that only work with this new mode.

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @d.healey
                last edited by Christoph Hart

                @d-healey I have to check this as this is not something that I would brute force fix, but it should be pretty easy.

                Can you send me a samplemap that crashes?

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                • OrvillainO
                  Orvillain @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  @Christoph-Hart Sounds great. I'm looking forward to docs + Dave's video! 😊

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by d.healey

                    @Christoph-Hart said in The Sample Map of The Future: Escaping the 20th Century Sample Mapping Paradigm:

                    Can you send me a samplemap that crashes?

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                    It looks to me like the group += 1 is on the wrong side of the else. Because, from what I understand, it should happen when we're not using the complex group manager.

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey Alright that's fixed - that logic is a bit convoluted because as soon as something is not zero based (like the old RR group values were) it breaks my brain, but you can thank that deficiency of mine for not having to write Lua all day.

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                      • OrvillainO
                        Orvillain
                        last edited by

                        Hey - are there any good tutorials that can get a beginner into this complex group editing stuff???

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Orvillain
                          last edited by

                          @Orvillain it's not ready yet but we did get a mini tutorial in the last meet up, think it was in April. Video is on my YouTube channel

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                          • OrvillainO
                            Orvillain @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey Sorry, do you mean the feature isn't ready yet? I'll go and dig out the meet up video. I can join those in the future now I'm no longer at inMusic !!

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Orvillain
                              last edited by

                              @Orvillain Yeah the feature is in a kind of beta state - at least it was last time I checked.

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