This is to say thank you to everyone who helped and engaged so awesomely in this forum, especially @Christoph-Hart, @d-healey, @dannytaurus, @HISEnberg and many more! To get this level of help and devotion in an internet forum is not common, especially not in 2024 where people usually are "go away noob!" or "use the damn search" ;-))) Therefor I thank you, the things I have learned over the past days are incredible, given I started from zero.

Today I finally managed to have a first usable prototype of the synth I have envisioned with beautiful waveforms and sounding exactly the way I wanted, and I ended up not using wavetables at all. Take a listen here if you want to:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/h211eql2t99ntdbltrbuo/IMG_8250.MOV?rlkey=a0n81idbt7oaldbkqpz16x9nr&dl=0

Here are the raw OSC waveforms, I shaped them using polyshaperfx

We solved the pops and clicks, the filters behave and sing like a diva, the analog vibe is all there and I'm thoroughly amazed. There is lots to tweak and add, but I got the basics and I'm confident I'm on the right track to continue with HISE as the best choice I could have made.

Thank you again, I can't state this often enough and sorry for the million more questions I will all bother you with in the future ;-) Love you guys!!! You made my week and enabled me to finally concoct a thing that has been brewing in my head for so many years. That's beyond awesome!

This isn't an ad or a post to brag but I wanted to show you what I achieved using HISE and FAUST in a few weeks with the help of this awesome community!

So this is to say thanks to all who supported me in learning HISE in a ridiculously short time. This would never have been possible without HISE and all of you. I started with simple FX plugins like reverbs and delays, which are now included in this synthesizer. So all the sound you hear is 100% HISE/FAUST.

The Audio:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFDtqa2s5Sp/

From the bottom of my heart, you guys are my heroes!!
@Christoph-Hart @d-healey @aaronventure @HISEnberg @griffinboy @Mighty23 @sletz
and many many more <3

I made a quite good sounding wow and flutter plugin using faust
and thought I'd share it, as probably some could use it

import ("stdfaust.lib");

wow = os.lf_trianglepos(hslider("wow",0.5,0,2,0.01)) : si.smooth(0.9999) * 1000.;
wow_intensity = hslider("wow_intensity",0.3,0,1,0.01):si.smooth(0.9999);
flutter = os.lf_trianglepos(hslider("flutter",8,2,20,0.01)) : si.smooth(0.9999) * 1000.;
flutter_intensity = hslider("flutter_intensity",0.1,0,1,0.01):si.smooth(0.9999);
hiss = hslider("hiss",0.1,0,1,0.01);

drive = hslider("drive",0,0,1,0.001) ;

tanh(x) = x * (27 + x * x) / (27 + 9 * x * x);
saturator = ef.dryWetMixerConstantPower(drive,tanh * drive * 20 : co.limiter_1176_R4_mono: tanh );

tapenoise = no.pink_noise*0.6 + no.sparse_noise(10)*0.2 : fi.bandpass(1,600,20600)/5 + os.triangle(60)*0.05 + os.oscsin(528)*0.003 + os.oscsin(110)*0.002;

wowflutter = de.fdelay1(ma.SR, 100. + wow*(wow_intensity)  + flutter*(flutter_intensity/5)) <: saturator : fi.lowpass(2,8000) + tapenoise * hiss;



process =  wowflutter, wowflutter;

this sounds quite awesome on synths if you are looking for the retro 80s synthwave vibe, the saturation circuit is a bit fishy but it sounds good. if anyone has some improvements let me know.

I'm aiming to simulate real magnetic saturation with hysteresis once I can wrap my head around it

I made these little waveform icons, if anyone has use for them please feel free!
Couldn't find ones that aesthetically pleased me anywhere online so I drew them myself in Illustrator.

Here's the source code to save you the conversion hassle.
you'll need to put a correspondingly named panel for each icon onto your UI

const var labelSine = Content.getComponent("labelSine");
const var labelSaw1 = Content.getComponent("labelSaw1");
const var labelSaw2 = Content.getComponent("labelSaw2");
const var labelSquare = Content.getComponent("labelSquare");
const var labelNoise = Content.getComponent("labelNoise");


const var svg_sine = Content.createSVG("418.nT6K8CVaATLC.XwmXQBHMZa.yhzBWkPkzQoPI.XRHHfRltcFhHhxLSR+8ffD.fD.frPX.7D.CAvSTCNZz7jbrqXcge2s1E0hJ4HgjBp3.BkkzCJQLJkZYdDgjyUdkJUXXD.hISbH4DEA5AIVRKCQ3XhEHjbZ.Y4AknlGBRt7fDTH47HBjFRXDwwRRcM4DQBjnHbPYA5AIHnIJcem0Y+dagO9rM6uKt12R9Mzsu0bwWwE+Uy8cMWuuRFs12Fcpqq8gjSikTxIJZADiEGlr.hlmzlJSCSSECzP.B.AAoAJzLBhweb.Mwjnl39iS8a5VWS705aEYq2Pl+pXacEcuuv0cMYv5UM70m2yXz0tRYFUXycFCU3xN6g5dEis2apZfacWmr85Jer2a532bF..OOnDwz77fo4gIs.+Vt38cEa14Vttig5Yrjo5ycq8GCa5cKT0qMxtaWrc+0XumWXyes399hQEpp6TG6cis58JY1UFeQABP.BhsK2YKDfvQaW6pYBGsn686WbjTEfTvBH0gKeBlyD..lyqiJhJFXZcpv.EDISfT.");

const var svg_saw1 = Content.createSVG("375.nT6K8CVEAz1B.X31PQBLswI.CsFJ3O.5GCwxB3EEF4vydsdXQ1atkojr+KbRCJnfT9PU.jD.6.Pqe2rhpnpFIfTvDHGRTTQRlVTU4knHfb1jOYxjkEAfHRDGTMSOjdPBEE2PDPSr.AUCCGJQRlXbHPAWGjfBplnGNX.44AjhR+pZd.wwTDPRTjdPBBXBoaOmw3ea5hmy8wMY8YXx6U1Z.7cL62M9AUCCEkpYZZgzihCQV.AiihW6ByBSECzH.AjjbzfhcMI8bGHoIhLw3L0.hAiipc3tJs5lQ2UNi70Vx5tSX+9xR9vjgm2G2Y1Bq0TTe6R8geuiRZruapoS+K0LtmkO14r4uIbuKeeoa1ru39sM.3DIYZgwIZgwYQwfqOuqW7wUCWt2Yqkuasu2zq6p4uaxr2Vw9568i5.T+x9lP8O3a8r1425jwucaFg20xm6AO.v.3CTYNiL1ylW6BDBPsGnkSga24PuIMLJhKSfgubpQCnlbjKfT");

const var svg_saw2 = Content.createSVG("378.nT6K8CVGAT3B.XCGRQBHMhZ.yhzhqRAcwYTVLf3CSHkhpX+vcuyMkYaOOJtX.BBv3QvU.nD.7.fpJs9cuJLE15ABHELQpgDk0jjpEFisKSO.47jOYxjkEAbHRjFVOUOnb.gxZY3AoHTbv5YQCkIIUNPDrdoAHjv5Y5QiEPhdHorXWWOOfzn5AIIJTNff.m.e1C0uplMWeW0zcMa7eY2bM224Lp2qnieSacrdVnrVOUUJnhTZHhBGbfVapKNKNSL.i.DfhpACIzrhJ5PRTQDoxAphgzBGnk19Kn8YNaMusJp7YRWe1gO1SkuhL6Iy6HC412qJ1XmoX+FYl2nycW+UQll2jMeG9bmooxbcuKatyMn1mY2zE..zjjpEGnoEGnk0B5YZ9z6xV+KY3u4aeKYQsBYV03qJ1vdi8dGxhXZuwHg6qb1Mx74Me52F1M64E08sN48sSwfC..BAbOfZYfVwSwEfTlV37hetr1pypn.ErAO9xoFMfZxRt.RA");

const var svg_square = Content.createSVG("411.nT6K8CFaAzHC.XG2SQBLKZU.CGtRigPYNnpFCf0Hyo3vp4saQtBoHIYp8GrsbFQDAn1U.vD..A.b0KM2ct0BuvJmJQJfRjioEUioICy7hogjHmQ4TnPggQ.GlLoAkyDhziJKpECRhdPABJmENVZLMadHPE2CRPAkSCHNVDABRzhheqbfDwwTRzzhziJDzDvgch25PEJuStRs7LbRx2oM16dY0s9agjq2Zc8Va8P4rXQoblSERPKMLQgCMOp01LMLMQL.i.DPRxACH5cJA8mHoGlLadlLhVz7nfrGr2pqOSYnH+XbJ9dSat2RI35rUhcmt0eJCsf2IipSkq2FzmoQ1iaTdW+255uR9rEp42RDVO34dWLC9113+VFJ1AvSioISySCllGF0BKCwd2sRzc6tM1N2Zq8MFuCBJebcuG6Vhweew27Wn6J2vCUFel1huoN4as+Ra1iJ6clF6+zUZfBXhRxQ2AhhqpDiCjDvKwqYkShE.l.HgPohgR.+f3zisKPwXZu.E7AT0C3ONmS+oAnymBxXvi0MwfhHgVjB");

const var svg_noise = Content.createSVG("900.nT6K8CVaET8F.Xfr+IBPuIM.e9TDsLtc69FBdU.6hdLcoZYKqHhT11W9KhGGEUWLWBPZ.fF.nZOa8Sa2q1JOZ75m0f7WnU8bwGVXXd77vfSyxDJXPB6Z3ngiLFvg.DvwghCXb1iSygDw4BJdb.4wgHM3.BCpWwagSWs3RZIw7vhHJnRDJUrvzHkRXCISDwyJuRkJMZHfDTPwDlGOPrvfKLQjKX3.lGMPYQREONfP.yxL.gDXdHABJMDQCDQVXR+Xd.QDTdlHREKNOXAANprb02QzVo2WaNHDeuWaK0urd8TsFEZ78DhNGDlYtdaKttkhSqIY0MkehH0c0bVHV6CSH7199cssV5sl0tq+hx9m4nbanUeFyq18059oyVEqtxTplFw6n05WEsNHDRyinkw549qoxaWREnz2lBWXlt0K8MoILx7pY7WZMZY+khndGk5cu850b84Ty5QmC4C0L+6P8dDuBwoqHzhWUdDoa+8PMdu6CVbyJhaBwEmX05bdomLBUM2IDe0Z561DVW9qg596tzTUwCopNu27o2WpyF2O..QREOMb.QRCFETYdzXMeyRcE2N8w8USOSUWeEOD25YjhMn5Jz5VWmSIlVqmo26wzyy4J8caV9ah18thF1bpstYwOgS85Kzk3o5mYZNY9koHlcd8KZUbeuMHkuRsNVd18Uy6WqhV2xHdzQYpE.HznFHNujUC.RBA.EAA.Y.yX00AP5c.IPbF7x5.YmS4bta1qNmyKQbTfDYpQ2NCQNjaMsAbtozqaGP7fbVrrAiQXFKAiOj0wIxXlWH4VtDpxcZfvpLfd63EJeTuejUlp5C+8vQxdIEJG.AqM.LwgQDCaD7txZ7SXLqtJLe0TG1I.7ZQmLvdOJBsxceFm8ujzMtB56bQJB.p8WC5wxGYBWfM9QupFrg0UBNklYHWEIZ2sqRiIBeWz8AyipcpkV0SL3XJWSM.HO1QmBBny79HHCDIbx8o.NfuyMUMwGavh+e5RiB5ZGLFTsln490Dh.crvp3dI96hiENh6hXKYpGgwUKJv7tEStIll4RIgac0qg1Z.ABDjPeHWE.GgZ9sZVNMF2QthzVrEbU5PoRug0ElbGze218nYtForGfxR4FSg3b95HLP9bu4DSURVp8DMkGoel25vVXL+lltYVeicArLaiD.S.HMhWHGEXF.5Ay2wuC1CkK6kMbLGd1A");


labelSine.setPaintRoutine(function(g)
{	
	g.drawSVG(svg_sine, this.getLocalBounds(0), 1);
});
labelSaw1.setPaintRoutine(function(g)
{	
	g.drawSVG(svg_saw1, this.getLocalBounds(0), 1);
});
labelSaw2.setPaintRoutine(function(g)
{	
	g.drawSVG(svg_saw2, this.getLocalBounds(0), 1);
});
labelSquare.setPaintRoutine(function(g)
{	
	g.drawSVG(svg_square, this.getLocalBounds(0), 1);
});
labelNoise.setPaintRoutine(function(g)
{	
	g.drawSVG(svg_noise, this.getLocalBounds(0), 1);
});

In roughly two days, thanks to you all, I managed to make a working software clone from my LinnDrum. You can see it in action here! While you watch repeat after me: HISE IS AWESOME! And its community even more so! :-)

some progress on the sound and GUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhPg8Y6G78s

it went from do-able to almost done :)

HISE and faust for the win again.
After a longer hiatus I spent two days modeling a Simmons SDS-V module from its original schematics which can now be used to make TomTom, Snare and Kick sounds. Very happy, this will be a cool new plugin idea.
Thanks Hise & faust!

first test:
https://www.morphoice.com/downloads/sdsv.m4v
The screen recording is from a macbook speaker with a microphone only, let me assure you the source audio has hell of an oomph ;)

I'm not really looking forward to making all the parameter knobs and mixer panels for this one but hey... what has to be done has to be done. Can't wait to use this in my third album.

cheers
and thanks @David-Healey, your YouTube tutorials on LAF and paint routines were once again indispensable <3

Here's my attempt at different saturation models in faust. Have fun!

I'm hoping WAVES, KUSH and UAD won't have me whacked for sharing these.
Feel free to add gain correction

import("stdfaust.lib");

drive_twk = hslider("TWK",0,0,1,0.001);
drive_neve = hslider("Neve",0,0,1,0.001);
inflate = hslider("Inflate",0,0,1,0.001);
gain = hslider("Gain",1,0,2,0.001);

// Neve
neve(x) =x + 0.04 * ma.tanh(x*40); 

// Tweaker
twk(x) = x*2/(1+abs(x*2));             

// Oxford Inflator
oxford(x) = sin(ma.PI/2*sin(ma.PI * 2 * x)) * inflate + sin(ma.PI * 2 * x) * (1 - inflate);


saturator = ef.dryWetMixerConstantPower(drive_twk,twk) :
            ef.dryWetMixerConstantPower(drive_neve,neve) : 
            ef.dryWetMixerConstantPower(inflate,oxford) * gain;

process = saturator,saturator;

I feel the need to point out once again, what a welcoming, helpful, generous and lovely community the HISE forum is. Kudos to you all. Y'all taught me how to make those plugins. Not AI.

Just a reminder for everyone just getting started with faust to read this

https://faustdoc.grame.fr/manual/optimizing/

and avoid unnecessary cpu calculations. Really makes a huge difference!.

@David-Healey I added a dragThumbOnly property to Scriptslider

if enabled:

• A left-click on the slider track no longer starts a drag or jumps the value.
  HiSlider::mouseDown hit-tests the click against the drawn handle centre
  and only forwards to Slider::mouseDown when the click lands on the
  thumb (within dragThumbSize/2 + dragThumbPad). Right-clicks still pass
  through for MIDI-learn / context menu.
• Snap-to-mouse is disabled, so dragging the thumb is relative and the
  value does not snap to the cursor on click.

if anyone is interested it's on my fork
https://github.com/morphoice/HISE/commit/7b206d1951558381a2a38b2691a504d7542eec56

however the dimensions are currently hardcoded to my needs, so there will be further changes needed to make this a general feature. I therefor didn't make a PR

@David-Healey I rewired a test slider in my plugin as a panel-as-parameter exactly like you did in your example, no change in Cubase. I'm attempting to patch HISE to have that handle click gated

@David-Healey I'm on MAC

@David-Healey Confirmed in your own snippet: if I write the automation by moving the knob from script (panel -> Knob1.setValue/changed) instead of dragging it, Cubase records the lane but won't read it back on playback until I reload the project.

@David-Healey at it. If this works in Cubase I'm gonna cry

@David-Healey using the knob's control callback for the read side is cleaner than the poll I was using, so thanks for that. But I think the reason it works for you and not me is the host. Nothing here emits beginChangeGesture/endChangeGesture - Knob1.changed() from script doesn't - and Cubase only arms a parameter for automation read once it has seen that gesture. Your host seems to arm on a plain edit, so the round-trip fires; in Cubase the lane is written but never armed, so the read is never sent back and onKnob1Control never runs (until a project reload). So I think your test actually pins it on Cubase's gesture requirement rather than the link logic.

@David-Healey said in Custom controls:

Oh I missed that, I'll check

I wonder if my best option is to simply modify HISE to give the slider a thumb-only mode (gate that Slider::mouseDown call in HiSlider on getPositionOfValue) and throw the stack away

@David-Healey Yep, that's exactly what I have. The invisible knob is the parameter and its control callback does panel.setValue(value); panel.repaint();. That half works - if the knob receives a value, the panel follows it.

The gap is on the write side, not the read side. I never drag the knob - I drag the panel, because I need handle-only dragging (move only when you grab the handle, not when you click the groove), which a normal slider can't do. So the panel intercepts the mouse and sets the knob's value from script. A real drag fires beginChangeGesture/endChangeGesture, and that's what tells the host to arm the parameter for automation read. A scripted setValue/changed doesn't fire it, so the host records my lane but never arms it - on playback it never sends the value back to the knob, the callback never runs, the panel never moves. A project reload fixes it because the host re-reads the parameter list.

So the knob->panel read path you're showing is already in place and fine. The only missing piece is that my value change comes from script rather than a drag, and there's no HISEScript API to emit the gesture.

@David-Healey said in Custom controls:

I was demonstrating the host automaton on the slider (invisible in your case) updates the panel

Right, but in your demo you're dragging the knob. We're not - we drag a view (panel) that sets the knob's value from script. A real drag fires beginChangeGesture/endChangeGesture, which is what arms the parameter for read; a script setValue/changed doesn't. So the host writes our automation but won't read it back until reload. The knob itself automating fine was never the issue - it's that our value comes from script, not a drag, and there's no script API to emit the gesture.

@David-Healey Thanks for testing. I think your working case is actually the same gesture thing seen from the other side.

In your example Knob1 is a real slider you drag directly, and it just mirrors its value into Panel1 for display. The knob is the parameter, and because it's a real slider being dragged, JUCE fires beginChangeGesture/endChangeGesture, so it reads back. The panel there is only a readout.

Mine is different: the panel is the thing being dragged. I need handle-only dragging (move only when you grab the handle, not when you click the groove), which a normal slider can't do, so the panel intercepts the mouse and pushes the value into the invisible slider with setValue/changed from script. The slider itself is never dragged, so no gesture fires, and Cubase records the lane but doesn't arm it for read until I reload the project.

So dragging a real slider directly works (your case), but I can't do that without losing handle-only, and driving the slider from script gives me handle-only but no gesture. As far as I can find there's no HISEScript API to emit beginChangeGesture/endChangeGesture.

So the real question: has anyone gotten host automation to read back on a script-driven control - one you set with setValue/changed rather than by dragging the actual slider - without a project reload?