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    • griffinboyG
      griffinboy @Christoph Hart
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      I thought the difference was significant enough for me to want to model it.
      Then again, I am a perfectionist when it comes to audio things like this.
      It might not be significant to others.

      But in some cases I do prefer the free running over random phase. The overtones in the highs have an evolving pattern which your brain can follow in free running, and I find that pleasing. Wheras random phase gives a chaotic and hard to follow pattern.

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      • OrvillainO
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        @griffinboy said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

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        I thought the difference was significant enough for me to want to model it.
        Then again, I am a perfectionist when it comes to audio things like this.
        It might not be significant to others.

        But in some cases I do prefer the free running over random phase. The phasing in the highs has a clear pattern which your brain can follow in free running, and I find that pleasing. Wheras random phase gives a chaotic and hard to follow pattern.

        IMHO, it is extremely noticeable and having a way to support that behaviour would be excellent.

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @Orvillain
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          Do we have a way to prioritise these sorts of request? - not nesc. an order that Christoph might do a thing - that's up to him - but so we can see its relative importance to everyone. Im sure we had an approach I just cant seem to find it. Essentially so we(well me really) can say "Hey this sounds sorta esoteric and only applicable or even audible to a very few people - whereas MSEG envelopes might be considered more useful by a broader audience....."???

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          • griffinboyG
            griffinboy @Lindon
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            @Lindon

            Yeah, the feature request system is quite messy.
            Not to mention there are bug fix type requests as well as feature requests. I'm not really sure what would make it easier though!

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            • d.healeyD
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              I still would like a proper bug/feature tracker, the github + forum combo isn't the best

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              • dannytaurusD
                dannytaurus @d.healey
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                @d-healey Could all be done on GitHub. There are Discussions that can be used for proposing and discussing ideas. It also has a voting system. Then the issue tracker can be used for formal feature requests.

                Discussing things on the forum is great, of course, but a single source of truth for feature requests and bug reports would be really useful.

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @d.healey
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                  @d-healey said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

                  I still would like a proper bug/feature tracker, the github + forum combo isn't the best

                  yeah sure - but one with a voting feature - so at least we can see who really cares about what - as I say not any indication at any time that the heavily voted request would get done....

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                  • modularsamplesM
                    modularsamples @griffinboy
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                    @griffinboy @Christoph-Hart said in Global Modulator / LFO always retriggered ?:

                    @Christoph-Hart

                    It's a big perceived difference in my opinion.
                    I can make some sound demos if you're not convinced.

                    Sitting in front of a friends Matrix 12 (classic 80s poly synth) recently convinced me of the value of this approach, I'm not sure you could even call it subtle.. the variations in phase and pitch do something best described as lush. Most hardware VCO poly synths (or serious emulations thereof) should behave in the same way.

                    There's at least one way to achieve this currently, by cycling through multiple, identical monophonic "voices" with a round robin script:

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                    Easy enough as a snippet, but things can get tricky using this approach in more elaborate projects as everything needs to be duplicated for each voice.

                    What if there was some way to "clone" and assign voices without the need for additional stuff in the module tree? Maybe aaronventure's "continuous per-event modulation" snippet shows us the way.. IDK. Seems it would have pretty broad applications beyond fancy VCOs.

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