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    • ustkU
      ustk @UD AUDIO
      last edited by

      @UD-AUDIO Scriptnode has nothing to do with this, it's more a modular DSP environment.

      @DabDab On the interface, you'll need to master the panel painting/mouse callback (so all in one panel). But it might be doable with simple dragging panels though (one panel per effect), but I never tried...

      On the FX side, you'll need to use the "Effect Slot" FX so you can swap FXs at runtime using the "SlotFX" API.
      It should also be possible in Scriptnode with some basic routing and send/receive nodes.

      Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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      • NatanN
        Natan @DabDab
        last edited by

        @DabDab So Make 2 Chains.

        Delay > Reverb
        Reverb > Delay

        Simply Bypass / First One Using A Button, And Enable Second Chain.
        Also To Make It More User Friendly, Just Move The Graphics Around By Adding Some X,Y Positioning.

        Kinda Cheating, But It Works 👋

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @ustk
          last edited by

          @ustk said in How to Change Order of the Stacked Effects:

          Scriptnode has nothing to do with this, it's more a modular DSP environment.

          Actually it is a bit more convenient to implement a dynamic signal chain that can be scripted using scriptnode.

          // Create a DSP Network
          const var dsp = Engine.createDspNetwork("dsp") ;
          
          // Create a list of all effects that you want to assign
          const var fx = [dsp.get("reverb"), dsp.get("delay")];
          
          // Create the ID list for the slots 
          // (they are just simple containers but it helps avoiding
          // fiddling with the indexes)
          const var slots = ["slot1", "slot2"];
          
          
          // This function will take an array with slot indexes
          // and move them into the slots defined above
          inline function setOrder(order)
          {
              local i = 0;
              
              for(i = 0; i < order.length; i++)
              {   
                  local idx = order[i];
                  fx[i].setParent(slots[idx], 0);
              }
          }
          
          
          // Use -1 to remove the effect (not assign it to anything)
          setOrder([-1, -1]);
          
          setOrder([0, -1]);
          
          setOrder([1, 0]);
          

          Now all you need to do is to implement a dragging UI using script panels and then call setOrder with the updated index array (this is rather a tedious task but you would have to implement it anyway).

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          • DabDabD
            DabDab @Natan
            last edited by

            @Natan I like the idea... I have a lower knowledge of HISE. So I need your help. I will post the project tomorrow along with your idea. I need some corrections.

            Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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            • DabDabD
              DabDab @MikeB
              last edited by

              @MikeB Yup.. :)

              Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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              • UD AUDIOU
                UD AUDIO
                last edited by UD AUDIO

                Drag&drop swapping for comboboxes would be insane :D
                (FL Studio mixer does work similar to this)
                99 problems but f-x ain't one!

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                • DabDabD
                  DabDab
                  last edited by

                  Hi, @ustk @ulrik @Natan @MikeB
                  How can I change FX Order stack from Interface and via DSP.

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                  • Tania GhoshT
                    Tania Ghosh
                    last edited by Tania Ghosh

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                    • DabDabD
                      DabDab
                      last edited by

                      @Natan @ustk @MikeB @ I have done FX Slot Reorder via comboBox and FXSlot . Now my problem is You to change order Of Panel?

                      FXOrder.jpg
                      I can understand dynamically it is impossible to make stunning Animated Things, like Serum/Vital does. Till now can anybody tell me how to change order of panel? Something virtual to make End user believe . I hope this will be my only solution for now.
                      I hope HISE developer @Christoph-Hart will implement this features in future.

                      Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @DabDab
                        last edited by ustk

                        @DabDab Well, if you use comboboxes, this means an effect type can be select multiple times unless you added some safety. So moving panel isn't the solution, because this is more apparently related to effect selection than effect reordering... This would mean all panels have to exist prior to being called. If you have 5 effect types with 3 slots, this is 15 panels... imagine if you have more effects and/or slots...

                        Dynamic reordering is absolutely doable, but this requires some learnings on how to manipulate panels (or child panels). And this is not combobox friendly as they don't suggest re-ording by nature, but straight selection.
                        If you don't want to reorder but just call the good panel (like your screenshot suggests), then instead of creating 15 panels like mentioned above, a panel factory would be much better. But again, this requires some learning about panels and how to make a factory, as well as child panels. because child panels can be dynamic, not straight panels from a factory (they can be created but not deleted like child panels)

                        Seeing all of this it's hard to tell you how because it depends on the behaviour that you want and the skill level. In any case, you'll need to learn a lot about panel manipulation and/or how to make a factory using child panels, as no easy or ready solution will come to you (at least none I can think of to replace 15 or more panels, which is absolutely not a good start). I strongly advise you to learn everything about panel recipes in the doc, this will keep you busy for a while:

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                        go step by step, create one child panel using a button first, then a combobox for two children, and add difficulty step by step.

                        It is not necessary to think effects like a list though. Each of the 3 panels above can have its own list of 1 panel ;)
                        Just make a child factory per effect type, and call it when and where you need it. I must say I've never done it this way for effects reordering.

                        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @ustk
                          last edited by Lindon

                          @ustk said in How to Change Order of the Stacked Effects:

                          (at least none I can think of to replace 15 or more panels, which is absolutely not a good start).

                          Why? It works like a dream for me...as you can see in the example I posted 5 slots with 7 FX in each = 35 panels, works fine, no CPU or graphics overload....

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk @Lindon
                            last edited by

                            @Lindon For two reasons:
                            It's good you don't have graphic overloads because I had some in the first tests I've made long ago. So I would be afraid to get glitchy graphics on some user smaller systems...
                            But the main reason (if the graphic load is ok) is the maintenance and the UI list growing exponentially, requiring huge component declarations.
                            I don't say it doesn't work or it is bad, but I prefer dynamic stuff with only one panel and some factory. The only issue with child panels is the impossibility of inserting something else than a panel. So knobs have to be panels too...

                            Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                            • DabDabD
                              DabDab @ustk
                              last edited by

                              @ustk Ok... Thank you :)

                              Bollywood Music Producer and Trance Producer.

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                              • ?
                                A Former User @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart This is really interesting!! I think I'll try this one! But what I don't quite get yet is the dsp.get("reverb") for example. So the reverb is a container in your DspNetwork? Or wrapped ones?

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