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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @lalalandsynth
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      @lalalandsynth said in Scriptnode envelope ?:

      I cannot see how I can have a user set a filter freq on a synth

      You always throw a spanner in the works :p I didn't know the user needed to set the value.

      You could use a knob to set the table point but table points go from 0 to 1 so I don't know what the formula is to convert that to a frequency value. I think some googling will help you with the calculation, or maybe @Christoph-Hart knows.

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      • lalalandsynthL
        lalalandsynth @d.healey
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        @d-healey hhehe ;)

        On a regular synth , the envelope on the filter will add to the cutoff position , unless of course its inverted where it will subtract from the cutoff.

        As it stands it seems not possible to make the standard behaviour which rules out a lot of synth emulations, so i was hoping that until this is fixed i could hack it somehow with scriptnode.

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        • lalalandsynthL
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          Also, lots of clicks and pops when holding one note and playing another fast.

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          • Casey KolbC
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            The whole HISE modulation system is unipolar like this and it drives me insane. Very unusual behavior for sure.

            The only hacky workaround I can think of (other than overhauling to scriptnode) is to set the backend value of the filter to the top value of the modulation range you want, but set the knob in the interface the middle of the modulation range.

            Fortunately, you can achieve pretty much all of the same results with this unipolar system, but it's very unintuitive.

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            • lalalandsynthL
              lalalandsynth @d.healey
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              @d-healey

              So basically , a knob on the synth to control freq on the filter like normal , ie. knob set to freq in properties.
              This knob is also converted to 0-1 and hooked up to the table where it tracks the freq set with the Freq slider.

              Then when the envelope to filter is engaged , the envelope is already set to the correct freq and when you move the freq/cutoff point you are really moving the table value , disengage and it controls filter like normal

              Bunch of hoops , but possible ..However!

              You cannot set the amount , the filter now always opens fully. (When the attack portion is over)

              You should be able to add envelope to the set cutoff point , in the amount you want.
              Basic synthesis :P

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              • lalalandsynthL
                lalalandsynth @Casey Kolb
                last edited by lalalandsynth

                @Lunacy-Audio said in Scriptnode envelope ?:

                Fortunately, you can achieve pretty much all of the same results with this unipolar system, but it's very unintuitive.

                Can you expand a bit on this as yes , its driving me insane as well.
                If I can somehow achieve a positive envelope (and preferably inverted as well) from the cutoff point , with amount setting, then please tell me how :)

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                • Casey KolbC
                  Casey Kolb @lalalandsynth
                  last edited by Casey Kolb

                  @lalalandsynth Yes, totally agree.

                  I'm not using envelopes but I'm using LFOs all over the engine I'm building, so I'm not sure if the behavior is slightly different, but it's definitely unipolar in the same way.

                  An example to achieve the same behavior with a filter in bipolar vs unipolar:

                  Bipolar –

                  1. Set knob value to 50%.
                  2. Set modulation intensity to 50%.
                  3. Knob will modulate from 25% to 75%.

                  HISE Unipolar –

                  1. Set knob value to 75%.
                  2. Set modulation intensity to 50%.
                  3. Knob will modulate from 25 to 75%.

                  Obviously that's a pretty stupid example haha, but you can achieve mostly the same results with either. The latter is just more confusing.

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                  • Casey KolbC
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                    For something like a macro control, it typically works as a positive unipolar modulation (i.e. starts at 50% and adds the modulation intensity) which I think is what you're referring to.

                    A good reference point: Serum treats macro modulators this way, but treats LFOs as bipolar sources. I'm sure you already know all this though.

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                    • lalalandsynthL
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                      Yes, I am referring to how almost all analog synths work when you add an envelope to the filter ...hehehe :)
                      Everything would be so much simpler if HISE would just stick to how this works normally.

                      Now obviously this might be fixed (I certainly hope so ) but I was hoping I could do it via scriptnode as it appears to me that the envelope system is unworkable as it stands.

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                      • lalalandsynthL
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                        Normal Bipolar LFO to filter behaviour, and in fact it does the same for Pitch .
                        As you can hear , it adds and subtracts from the set cutoff point.
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                        Normal Positive going envelope FROM cutoff point, only adding to it ! Unless you swicth the invert button in which case it will subtract from the cutoff point.

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                        Another example
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                        • Casey KolbC
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                          100%. I'm with you haha

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                          • LindonL
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                            ..and theres definitely a click in the envelope...

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                            • Christoph HartC
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                              Does the click go away if you wiggle the hold knob? I remember a glitch there that appeares sometimes...

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                              • LindonL
                                Lindon @Christoph Hart
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                                @Christoph-Hart nope - sorry it doesn't.

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                                • dejansD
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                                  I must mention I'm quite new to SN, but as I was messing around I came up with this partial solution, but have no clue how to do a proper envelope for the filter. As it stands, the filter cutoff is modulated via the Gain envelope...

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                                    lalalandsynth @dejans
                                    last edited by lalalandsynth

                                    @dejans said in Scriptnode envelope ?:

                                    m quite new to SN, but as I was messing around I came up with this partial solution, but have no clue how to do a proper envelope for the filter. As it stands, the filter cutoff is modulated via the Gain envelope...

                                    Thats not bad actually , probably better to use a "muted" osc specifically to drive the envelope follower(Or even skip it and use the synth to drive it ) , that way the attack and release on that osc can be used as the Filter envelope AR. Needs some routing but...
                                    This way we are stuck with a monophonic envelope but its something !

                                    Thanks for sharing.

                                    EDIT! I can get a Bipolar LFO from Cutoff Point ! Seems to work ... FINALLY !
                                    Some speed problems on the filter I am testing 13 hz and up and it stops doing anything.

                                    Now if I could only make this modulation appear for the main interface , wonder if that is possible somehow ?

                                    QUESTIONS/ things to test.

                                    1 . Is it possible to tempo sync the scriptnode oSc/Lfo ?
                                    2 Is it possible to delay the onset of the lfo , maybe using a ramp triggered by a synth ...hmm , that should be possible?
                                    3. Can I add the filter envelope to the lfo signal?

                                    If this can be achieved we are moving closer to standard synth operation.

                                    Bipolar filter modulation...

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                                    Bipolar Filter modulation with delayed onset of LFO... Needs a bit of routing work but a POC.

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                                    Improved it a bit ....

                                    HiseSnippet 2792.3oc6bsDaabbFdVRMxVzRN1IpstAoErt4fCjCgHkjsE5ARIQIaESYRoUxIEs.pqVNTZqVtylcWRIlzBDf1C9Vxw1Bj1qE8POmbpBM.8jMP.bNzioEnGJxEmCIG5kz4wRtyvckzpmlJ1KLj47Zmu+my++vYXEGrNx0E6.TFX4V1HfxfP0VVdaLyFZFVf4KBTdYXMCSOjCxpoGx0aUWcGCaOKbUDX5V1Zttnp.Ekj2l1ekA5CvddR9o0L0rzQAUA.2GaniJYT2vKn1JEtqgo4bZUQKaTWn2iWXdcr0LXSbCB1RBGEXqouo15n6oQ6VBHPo+YqZ3gcT8zH3Bnz2z3psT2.ukEu+22v0XMSDsPVfJ4EwqdNrYUJhoeFLyFFlUqzlG3BHuzJAbjjbNxvvELpZzo9.NykXMjNXDh7CkD6E7xJBuQiDdYi.d.Az0GGcDPfq1vTySFYTwgeCFXKIjMukGxx0vqkn35oJbuLrhgm9FQi2DQfWhf5jFu9B+gfyVqFR2K.r8Am6sN4kzJJUBYZ9hvJXyV1afsLzmiYSx.z.Pdgr6g8H.LmC5safrzayE24q1d8BKJpBr.0jtS4qTXwFZlBb8q.FcpoMrwlZNwRCJ4tyFDsGifz6KlpMeWXGhJ8QQWOY7DX6iP5hbjBgklqruQH4So6f6r6mR8Sx2sL5W7Q+v+Sdpuw4CDkEd+BuoVSTMrSc9DFL7Rn0ISjXMKipaiI9y0E0DTqiwdaXXstrG2gKTBism0RiP5UEeIU1PyEUtVMWjm3qYlFtd35swBykrpGxtnlmFP4mAuw3YHO0Fg92Img7mwJe7TFb7onkHlJZuDSR1QjQko83dT4HVx7nmeM.pGqzmYVy56C8cFx3xmcv8EgK1aAVe+lW.pZXgXwd56bmVNM0+R5airPNg7g10RbeZbC4zN1gbVV2iL8K6nY4ZicE8092TQ0MVFaQ4HAy1JtHpxvRTVqjqRrlSjMQb4SHxHGiplWCGlLZp53FVswegwF6KxqjL1xjCPnu887PeOFCG3E3X7bvotSQ0k7cww9b5YsZhLw1HYs4EvVXdrchpAKg7bLVecjiHhijLlxyijgzLMbZJYATDoq0JTs7NGtlRHBzDq9NDgRnWWmJ97GTPkDFPfcHIhku2NKgLQZtRVVypikCu73LdQXLUMFBxIxzL69dc2z9XkKQ5sA6fPlZwYA95K.8UXOSvXuHz2V5r.qcOyhO4Ysr3Odxp3x94nAU2PyFQlR5beAdozy8Vx4D56k9e.yNNK4Igmlkyp+KKM4cvZKNwLrxpSr08lr4MKU5V7xKZ2BOYywVqzM4kmr3baO4czu6R9sO1spkcxJ2Usk+3WS8FEGo4DK632+x07VbjJKbW0avK+FSd2kFYY22Xkfwe+QxbyxY7Kqu0h+zQpMwJV9iWNYslkASan4VBUSJmQZcKYr9FRUdGREUHLAw0KJg2RppG73BxqeTnP4lHGWs51ljLYEsADhJbmG9vQKrDpZC4fBmpgGd8t1dDVLhyaY2PBZEcLjW2bAisk1jSlziu8KRQBdjiPKRE6kvM7HT6BZjXBH3.duF0UIAqpiH50VVHSxDAURPC3jWdTZYVvjHqprBeC4wuwrzxJ9MlsciQXrmBpx1xWes2A8K1s5aRd0.k+BbVq0Ig0lQ2AQn9ht12C4sE1Yyqc0hpUt5q8SFJ0Pop0vRm5iHssCxVyAsLthoVqqwDnHRvvnqmdMSr9lpFuC50R8toFH0uNUZgAw.4zzdbMcehOb2nQya44fMulUi5qgbtd5lZlMBdeg1C4CsQ+ohngRLHRl..fOCkEyo+mIehJcfPBOlVKyZI0bZ5DxqUEMRVUDGzj7anq8gbxn2wSX+zQjEP.b2PsDg6JUsRR5qscFRb7OCtdcJnn6+i+meSipzoCpbcRO3ZHKQjqzkvVPxJmxoqn4nUGwseTRH4QNIgCaib7LPTNLcp4DLizNGE6mC5Rr+8.6JYxa9jh11EDljivySQ34gLNcVv9HIdZv92E3mP.9of0wU4HTh.FVf.5ziSVZXOUJ5W.yCAwt5jL74aXPH9tCJSP68.7cVVizRjHiRx2O+UbQzzqA2m5shN+UZrlIMuPkjffvqVVyYcjGKfm.aHpNY6RjW07jTMc77Svzvx+EJrdl11cU2knq8hb5ZOS.fUrsCU6kJP2wWpKZwEEU2DsEmqKkyJyUCaQ7Pn.DGH+G98zmONeXHmIRHOdgHfLINBQH29cJB4TvQyjK2jSN5D9AqErq7cgkuLOH975mDAvGMRf+j7QwqG8.xqGjg6z78UJDV.b6kA313tFqmiXE2kwxEg0I+eF+FepXoHFcbWV96qcfxQyN3I4iuc.QNHHad2g+q29e8N+18P1bNHexBaHH3FCBq2vTVhjhKQn02Crdw2pj.+fOaJx+9PICi9oRfr8ThfiKChT83hiu9Z+72+u+U+y7cSTT5V1HQqZ0HkPz5etQxwqT4QOj97Y4Ek.8CsQZaJKBt.OLKVC8lx.EkvZVCRAw7UojjayZYCDSz5DCCnrcmDiQdblSmu1b52r+dICGuPHYHIljiy3WHhoe0+8l+l5OJ+raSRt10ktSbTtnjdmbAAmdjDVLQZcG37fbiJVSOsc7k7YhHA1M4y4fQjNVuQ9jwO4c+kWYlYRDxP9G1P2Lj1NyonAi+Jrml9A10zXZefhhbU13XzLF64wRo1vWj3G2EsztmxzR69t+zx+6O9m+5q9keJiVRBWDzEDtbgCPpX41IrQdtH4841IJi7bw.uxo8x1S5Pn.za4W5aZ8mp7REeru5RmSIV.taOLvY4cXH7xcT+k4Ni5OseARYXHx+fErZMroIkG2k20WAVskkVcCc2Lg55YNmsINRZgDudwVKjz282fehe2L+nG8gbmsm2+KuOrmVPuKnGn820bDnt6jhy0qlT7ocrguZgS8zuRHINF.VEYp0ZUytiix0ayLsa5Yrst6fHTd0HVfA.1KgRQJSEDZJEEJCRhhc6UYb+t7.eIdlwcZ94dcOZNvjiYgIZXmTliYGufO3.nR8AGvXVRA6bVT6ZVeuBxY9Q2Pkw5s1pkCltz9rsKrsaUZaWZ6C7nrkKml4zuma4hbV7rsRomcSVR7r2lrrqEj9JU622j0vzilQMHto1G.YHbzLYkVhgcTSDGv681ebAEkYvD4L6jrvXvAEELZ3a.dj1Lj9yjBruSy4qRTDnm9tHrjNCX93y2GDNqUyz9GH98Cp7cF3SN.SenLciqLfF46yNx.1xro8nKXE2.xNDxf1CMdxff3f6RNvCW6jSN7fO4PGs4qOyq7E+6a7xwTNrx7rqVGmAPOGXB9mUTJhZZniZeZSKhb2zCaepehAGt8c4gdscBtKOeGX6qI3tbUdRbZeUdxJ9l6psbx22AuFVxcmWkTunj2bDxKq3NW0tRgdd9BUzrjdYjx410CXJvOHGUDgZpVN3TKId6LaX5hXqvK7d+bgpyIVc2mKUX7NvixWoFg9uOWhY3yuRQGiWonAZiQUC5ojs80HhgwWjXyWSqgo2I4kKR7xBG5R9Px51vhD45I287QIlxqqHdOeR+sieEDR9L4uBBw2Bk32rGPReZrb6owbTWS2AupN+vySM8NOqFBcaw94WY.3BzxoyBZxCFhlSynf5DG3qpqS0NdcB+I5wj6PLlwNDiY7CwXl3PLlabHFyMODi4V64XnqcRuWK045+jJpLK+mhAkfMJII3++J9ghL
                                    

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                                      lalalandsynth @Casey Kolb
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                                      @Lunacy-Audio Could you send me a snippet of your solution , never really understood it :P

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                                      • Casey KolbC
                                        Casey Kolb @lalalandsynth
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                                        @lalalandsynth I'm not sure I really understand it either haha.

                                        Let me see if I can whip something together. What in particular are you looking for? I ended up just going with the baked in unipolar modulation. It's fine, but a little clunky from a user perspective.

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                                        • lalalandsynthL
                                          lalalandsynth @Casey Kolb
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                                          @Lunacy-Audio its ok , bipolar is working now , for a filter at least.

                                          Bipolar LFO and Positive going Envelope on filter.

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                                          Invert envelope added.

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                                          I am going to try and build a proper analog synth modulation system , will post here as it develops.

                                          Hmm. found a problem...
                                          When the cutoff is low , and the amount is high the lfo "folds back" and the negative portion goes positive.
                                          Also happens when its when its maxed out in the other direction. No idea why at the moment.
                                          For this purpose i cannot use Sig2Mod or I am back to the default behaviour.

                                          Not finding a solution for this... hehe, it should not be so hard to get this to work in the right way .
                                          Anyone have ideas for this ?
                                          This can be somewhat fixed by limiting the LFO amount , I think its possible to hit a sweet spot...

                                          lfo.jpg

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                                          • lalalandsynthL
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                                            Amount set to minimize lfo foldback.

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