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    • David HealeyD
      David Healey @Lindon
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      @Lindon said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

      yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

      I wonder if a voice start mod would solve that

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        dannytaurus @David Healey
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        @David-Healey This doesn't do what I expected it to do. If you extend the release you hear the whole audio signal panning left and right.

        I think the request is that once a note is triggered on the left, it plays out on the left, then the next note plays out on the right.

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          dannytaurus @David Healey
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          @David-Healey Here's a video of how the UVI synths implement it, and what I think @inlandempire is asking for:

          https://share.cleanshot.com/ccSNXnWL

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          • David HealeyD
            David Healey @dannytaurus
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            @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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            • dannytaurusD
              dannytaurus @David Healey
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              @David-Healey Works! 🙌

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                dannytaurus @David Healey
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                @David-Healey And using Stereo Width on Stereo FX1 allows to control the width of the effect. 👏

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                  inlandempire @dannytaurus
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                  @dannytaurus @David-Healey
                  Yeah it seems a bit more difficult than I expected to be honest – and sorry for the confusion with midi messages kind of triggering a left/right function. That was a bit awkward. :-)

                  I am fully aware that if we are inside of the sampler we can decide where we want our samples to be panned and when they go out of th sampler, they are panned the way we've panned them.

                  In the Oberheim domain (at least on the older models – well basically on any analog synth) – each voice has it's own amp with it's own envelope – so basically the amps are panned Left/Right ...(or how you like them to panned if they have exposed individual trim pots).

                  Thanks for helping on this issue....it's much appreciated.

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                    inlandempire @dannytaurus
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                    @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                    @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

                    Thanks David - This was exactly what I was aiming for – and intuitionally I was right. It was really not much of scripting. But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career :-)

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                      David Healey @inlandempire
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                      @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                      But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

                      As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

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                        inlandempire @David Healey
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                        @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                        @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                        But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

                        As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

                        Hahaha... Yeah, it was not something that were just shut down as a trivial newbie question 😁
                        Aa a musical concept I feel it is very overlooked. People are dropping so many "wider-bigger" statements all the time - but to me stereo and widening is something different. Though the wide effect comes with voice spread it still serves a more musical purpose when playing chords.

                        Like writing scores to each musician and placing them in the room.

                        Happy you helped the long birth of a very simple child .

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                          Lindon @David Healey
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                          @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                          @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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                          oh very nice...

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                            inlandempire @David Healey
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                            @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                            @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                            But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

                            As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

                            Well....hmm...were we too quick to call it a success?
                            I can't get any FX to work in the stereo field now. Take into account that everything is still pretty new to me, but regardless of where I insert a delay or reverb it only appears in the channel recently triggered.

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                              David Healey @inlandempire
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                              @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                              were we too quick to call it a success?

                              Nope, you just became a typical client and added new requirements after I'd given you the feature you asked for. I'm just messing. 😜

                              Do you want per sampler effects or do you want master effects or something else? How should they behave?

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                                inlandempire @David Healey
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                                @David-Healey
                                Hahaha... no, I did not order anything. :-) In my personal order book of knowledge (which are extensive at some fields - not coding) all good gestures are always billede "Free of Charge" :- )

                                If the requirements did not implicit cover that everything after the voices were panned was panned too... then yes, I changed them hahahah...

                                For the Convolution reverb I am using at this stage I'd just like it to be on the master.

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                                  David Healey @inlandempire
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                                  @inlandempire So if the audio goes left you want the effect to go left too and not affect the right?

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                                    inlandempire @David Healey
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                                    @David-Healey
                                    I think it is just me who will have to learn to crate a send and a return. As an insert it behaves as expected. When left played the reverb is in left. I want the effects (reverb, panning delay) to be stereo... so I will need to create a send and return .... and that is something else I admit :-)

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                                      David Healey @inlandempire
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                                      @inlandempire You can use a send container and send effect for that

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                                        inlandempire @David Healey
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                                        @David-Healey
                                        I found out the very same moment you answered ....and blow my head off either creating feedback or something even more diabolic.

                                        Thank you for your kind help...

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                                          inlandempire @David Healey
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                                          @David-Healey
                                          … though I can’t figure out the place the send. Well it works fine but appears that it - regardless of where I place it - is placed post fader, as it would be called in a DAW, so it is the panned signal which is send and returned from the Send Container.

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                                            David Healey @inlandempire
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                                            @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                                            it is the panned signal which is send and returned from the Send Container.

                                            You want the prepanned signal to go to the send?

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