<![CDATA[New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread]]>Hi All
I am new to HISE developing (apart from a little Max 4 Live).

I am working on my first instrument — a small sample based synth, and would like do have any second voice pan left and any second right light know from classic Oberheims and modern Sequential synths. I will have multiple samplers (OSCs) so I am looking to implement globally.

The important thing here is that any voice wail sustain (if long)...in ex. Left channel regardless of if a new note is triggered (in the right channel). I been looking into multiple Scriptnode nodes like routing.event.data, jpanner, container.split but since this is totally new land to me I have still not successful ;-) Since we are not talking about a simple audio panner I am more into something that maybe requires some math fed into some kind of split function.

It should be straightforward I am sure.
I have looked on the forums, yet not found advice that I could use.

Thanks

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/topic/14212/new-to-hise-the-forum-and-a-question-about-voice-spreadRSS for NodeFri, 06 Mar 2026 17:37:45 GMTTue, 13 Jan 2026 12:06:50 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Thu, 15 Jan 2026 12:12:00 GMT]]>@David-Healey
Thanks for giving it a try – yeah I've been trying something out in Scriptnode – but succes here yet. Maybe I aimed too high for my current skills hahah :-)

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116060https://forum.hise.audio/post/116060Thu, 15 Jan 2026 12:12:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:45:45 GMT]]>@inlandempire Then I think you're out of luck with this technique because the send effect can't go before the stereo effect which is annoying. @Christoph-Hart Any reason this couldn't be changed?

You might have to go the scriptnode route.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116059https://forum.hise.audio/post/116059Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:45:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:37:00 GMT]]>@David-Healey
Yes. Correct.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116058https://forum.hise.audio/post/116058Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:37:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:12:32 GMT]]>@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

it is the panned signal which is send and returned from the Send Container.

You want the prepanned signal to go to the send?

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116049https://forum.hise.audio/post/116049Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:12:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Thu, 15 Jan 2026 10:24:13 GMT]]>@David-Healey
… though I can’t figure out the place the send. Well it works fine but appears that it - regardless of where I place it - is placed post fader, as it would be called in a DAW, so it is the panned signal which is send and returned from the Send Container.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116043https://forum.hise.audio/post/116043Thu, 15 Jan 2026 10:24:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:59:07 GMT]]>@David-Healey
I found out the very same moment you answered ....and blow my head off either creating feedback or something even more diabolic.

Thank you for your kind help...

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116033https://forum.hise.audio/post/116033Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:59:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:54:52 GMT]]>@inlandempire You can use a send container and send effect for that

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116032https://forum.hise.audio/post/116032Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:54:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:49:04 GMT]]>@David-Healey
I think it is just me who will have to learn to crate a send and a return. As an insert it behaves as expected. When left played the reverb is in left. I want the effects (reverb, panning delay) to be stereo... so I will need to create a send and return .... and that is something else I admit :-)

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116031https://forum.hise.audio/post/116031Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:49:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:42:25 GMT]]>@inlandempire So if the audio goes left you want the effect to go left too and not affect the right?

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116029https://forum.hise.audio/post/116029Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:42:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:41:21 GMT]]>@David-Healey
Hahaha... no, I did not order anything. :-) In my personal order book of knowledge (which are extensive at some fields - not coding) all good gestures are always billede "Free of Charge" :- )

If the requirements did not implicit cover that everything after the voices were panned was panned too... then yes, I changed them hahahah...

For the Convolution reverb I am using at this stage I'd just like it to be on the master.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116028https://forum.hise.audio/post/116028Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:41:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:34:38 GMT]]>@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

were we too quick to call it a success?

Nope, you just became a typical client and added new requirements after I'd given you the feature you asked for. I'm just messing. 😜

Do you want per sampler effects or do you want master effects or something else? How should they behave?

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116027https://forum.hise.audio/post/116027Wed, 14 Jan 2026 20:34:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Wed, 14 Jan 2026 19:04:58 GMT]]>@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

Well....hmm...were we too quick to call it a success?
I can't get any FX to work in the stereo field now. Take into account that everything is still pretty new to me, but regardless of where I insert a delay or reverb it only appears in the channel recently triggered.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/116023https://forum.hise.audio/post/116023Wed, 14 Jan 2026 19:04:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:39:21 GMT]]>@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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oh very nice...

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115917https://forum.hise.audio/post/115917Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:39:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:08:56 GMT]]>@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

Hahaha... Yeah, it was not something that were just shut down as a trivial newbie question 😁
Aa a musical concept I feel it is very overlooked. People are dropping so many "wider-bigger" statements all the time - but to me stereo and widening is something different. Though the wide effect comes with voice spread it still serves a more musical purpose when playing chords.

Like writing scores to each musician and placing them in the room.

Happy you helped the long birth of a very simple child .

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115906https://forum.hise.audio/post/115906Tue, 13 Jan 2026 17:08:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:43:47 GMT]]>@inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115897https://forum.hise.audio/post/115897Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:43:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:23:26 GMT]]>@David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

@dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

Thanks David - This was exactly what I was aiming for – and intuitionally I was right. It was really not much of scripting. But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career :-)

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115893https://forum.hise.audio/post/115893Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:23:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:18:57 GMT]]>@dannytaurus @David-Healey
Yeah it seems a bit more difficult than I expected to be honest – and sorry for the confusion with midi messages kind of triggering a left/right function. That was a bit awkward. :-)

I am fully aware that if we are inside of the sampler we can decide where we want our samples to be panned and when they go out of th sampler, they are panned the way we've panned them.

In the Oberheim domain (at least on the older models – well basically on any analog synth) – each voice has it's own amp with it's own envelope – so basically the amps are panned Left/Right ...(or how you like them to panned if they have exposed individual trim pots).

Thanks for helping on this issue....it's much appreciated.

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115890https://forum.hise.audio/post/115890Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:18:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:04:54 GMT]]>@David-Healey And using Stereo Width on Stereo FX1 allows to control the width of the effect. 👏

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115885https://forum.hise.audio/post/115885Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:04:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:02:27 GMT]]>@David-Healey Works! 🙌

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115882https://forum.hise.audio/post/115882Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:02:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:01:35 GMT]]>@dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115881https://forum.hise.audio/post/115881Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:01:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:01:33 GMT]]>@David-Healey Here's a video of how the UVI synths implement it, and what I think @inlandempire is asking for:

https://share.cleanshot.com/ccSNXnWL

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115880https://forum.hise.audio/post/115880Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:01:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:59:29 GMT]]>@David-Healey This doesn't do what I expected it to do. If you extend the release you hear the whole audio signal panning left and right.

I think the request is that once a note is triggered on the left, it plays out on the left, then the next note plays out on the right.

EDIT: Ha! Late with my reply again 😂

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115878https://forum.hise.audio/post/115878Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:59:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:58:28 GMT]]>@Lindon said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

I wonder if a voice start mod would solve that

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115877https://forum.hise.audio/post/115877Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:58:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread on Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:56:37 GMT]]>@David-Healey interesting...nasty clicking in the audio output when you play more than one voice at a time...and it doesn't seperate out notes playing at the same time here...yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

]]>https://forum.hise.audio/post/115876https://forum.hise.audio/post/115876Tue, 13 Jan 2026 14:56:37 GMT