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    • LindonL
      Lindon @David Healey
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      @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

      What about adding a simple gain module and alternating the pan parameter with each note?

      ..which would then pan all playing data (all notes) to one side or the other...

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      • David HealeyD
        David Healey @Lindon
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        @Lindon I think it works per voice, I seem to recall Christoph mentioning it somewhere.

        I made a little snippet to test, let me know if this is the right idea.

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        Edit: Looks like I might have been thinking of the poly stereo effect, but that won't work with a container.

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        • David HealeyD
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          Ok it works with a synth group. I was a bit lazy and used a MIDI processor but you could probably use a scripted voice start modulator if you wanted to.

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          • LindonL
            Lindon @David Healey
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            @David-Healey interesting...nasty clicking in the audio output when you play more than one voice at a time...and it doesn't seperate out notes playing at the same time here...yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

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            • David HealeyD
              David Healey @Lindon
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              @Lindon said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

              yeah its panning everything when you have more than one note playing...

              I wonder if a voice start mod would solve that

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                dannytaurus @David Healey
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                @David-Healey This doesn't do what I expected it to do. If you extend the release you hear the whole audio signal panning left and right.

                I think the request is that once a note is triggered on the left, it plays out on the left, then the next note plays out on the right.

                EDIT: Ha! Late with my reply again 😂

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                  dannytaurus @David Healey
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                  @David-Healey Here's a video of how the UVI synths implement it, and what I think @inlandempire is asking for:

                  https://share.cleanshot.com/ccSNXnWL

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                    @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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                      @David-Healey Works! 🙌

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                        dannytaurus @David Healey
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                        @David-Healey And using Stereo Width on Stereo FX1 allows to control the width of the effect. 👏

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                          @dannytaurus @David-Healey
                          Yeah it seems a bit more difficult than I expected to be honest – and sorry for the confusion with midi messages kind of triggering a left/right function. That was a bit awkward. :-)

                          I am fully aware that if we are inside of the sampler we can decide where we want our samples to be panned and when they go out of th sampler, they are panned the way we've panned them.

                          In the Oberheim domain (at least on the older models – well basically on any analog synth) – each voice has it's own amp with it's own envelope – so basically the amps are panned Left/Right ...(or how you like them to panned if they have exposed individual trim pots).

                          Thanks for helping on this issue....it's much appreciated.

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                            inlandempire @dannytaurus
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                            @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                            @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

                            Thanks David - This was exactly what I was aiming for – and intuitionally I was right. It was really not much of scripting. But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career :-)

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                              @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                              But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

                              As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

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                                inlandempire @David Healey
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                                @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                                @inlandempire said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                                But I had not figured out at this tage of my developing career

                                As you can gather from the thread, neither had we 😁

                                Hahaha... Yeah, it was not something that were just shut down as a trivial newbie question 😁
                                Aa a musical concept I feel it is very overlooked. People are dropping so many "wider-bigger" statements all the time - but to me stereo and widening is something different. Though the wide effect comes with voice spread it still serves a more musical purpose when playing chords.

                                Like writing scores to each musician and placing them in the room.

                                Happy you helped the long birth of a very simple child .

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                                  Lindon @David Healey
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                                  @David-Healey said in New to HISE, the forum – and a question about Voice Spread:

                                  @dannytaurus @Lindon Here's a version with a voice start mod instead, let me know if this is better

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                                  oh very nice...

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