@d-healey said in Arp --- problems problems problems....:

HISE version?

oh dont says its so....

Think I fixed it by moving the HISE build into a different directory. I guess Windows was still somehow referencing the old build (despite completely annihilating it off my disk. 🤷

Tried a couple of projects and they work okay now, thanks guys :)

@dustbro Ok, well that's encouraging! Let me try to extract a simple snippet and post. Thanks!

Do you have a minimal snippet that demonstrates the issue, or is it only happening in your larger project?

@dustbro
Good call, I'll try to debug with a Standalone.

Thanks!

Disabling the audio guard is just shooting the messenger so I need to check why it fires here...

@Christoph-Hart

Ok, solved it , NOT a bug , you need two envelopes for this to work , second one set to Monophonic .
Strange ! , lets see if it works ...

Strange operation , if you set the release of the first one long , play a chord , and then retrigger , you will be retriggering the chord . Understandable ,since its two envelopes but weird operation.

See example.

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Add a legato with retrigger ,and the whole thing becomes a bit of a mess, retriggers sometimes and always ticks which is not good as mono mode would be at least on of the reasons to use this.

What you can do to get closer to normal monophonic behaviour is have no release on the first envelope , but that obviously means no release available at all.

See example.

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Place the simple envelope AFTER the the mono envelope , and it still acts as the main release, which I think makes no sense ?
Bit of a mess.

In conclusion , the mono envelope just acts as an additional envelop on top of a poly envelope Unless I am missing something and someone can set me straight ?

Set it to Retrigger and its unstable and always ticks when retriggering the envelope.

See example.

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It is practically impossible to emulate a simple analog monosynth with the current envelope situation , is this something that could be addressed?

Is it possible to build an monophonic envelope using Scriptnode ?
I tried something , but can only get a poly gate ..it should at least be possible to get just a normal gate signal , note either on or off , if there was access to that , maybe I could build one ?

Ah think I've figured out the issue, second mic position has 6 channels - I must have screwed up the export, should have been a stereo file. I'll try again :D

Although a nice message instead of an instant crash would be better.

I'm using the plugin version on Mac and PC here. Haven't seen this issue yet. I might be running a different version number, so I'll check when I get back to the lab.

Yup, this has been discussed in some previous posts as well. The Width and Pan modulation are not really functional.

@pasmae Should say 2.1, sure you built the scriptnode branch?

Pity it's a hard compile and no runtime check.

Turn saveInPreset off?! AH YES! Ignore me, thanks :)

<insert gif of snoopy dancing>

I am in your debt, thanks soooo much for the quick reply! That solved it :)

Also, I appreciate the explanation about deferal....I suspected something like that was going on, but am still getting my feet wet here so every little bit of information helps!

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Finally problem solved with the Multimic method (A really great way to control different mic positions)...
Thumbs up @Christoph-Hart and @d-healey for the suggestion 👍