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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @David Healey
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      Nobody is expecting that AI will produce interesting plugins on its own - the same as it will never produce interesting music with any artistic value ever.

      It‘s the middle layer that handles the transformation from a human having an idea and vision to a plugin that is completely being revolutionized at the moment - this is where HISE sits and ignoring this paradigm shift would be suicidal for a framework like HISE which is why I‘m pulling 14 hour days since about 3-4 weeks to figure out the best way going forward. The way Opus 4.6 interacts with the current toolset I‘m developing is uncanny though and goes far beyomd simple LAF stuff - it eg. oneshotted the transformation of a fairly complex user preset model to the custom automation handler then Ralphed it‘s way to find out that setting processorIds will make the control callback not fire - with proper guidance and planning, which ties back to daves distinction between vibecoding and AI assisted development.

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        Bart @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart said in Agentic coding workflows:

        It‘s the middle layer that handles the transformation from a human having an idea and vision to a plugin

        MCP integration so awesome!

        Please allow it to add modules to the module tree 🙏🏼

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        • griffinboyG
          griffinboy @Christoph Hart
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          @Christoph-Hart

          Looking forward to it!

          We all appreciate your work 🫡

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          • HISEnbergH
            HISEnberg @Bart
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            @Bart I haven't tried it but looks like that may be in the works: https://github.com/christoph-hart/hise_cpp_raw_template/blob/main/AGENTS.md

            Sonic Architect && Software Mercenary

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              Bart @HISEnberg
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              @HISEnberg said in Agentic coding workflows:

              @Bart I haven't tried it but looks like that may be in the works: https://github.com/christoph-hart/hise_cpp_raw_template/blob/main/AGENTS.md

              Thanks HISEnberg.

              It does appear like its on the menu 🍻

              Testing last week I found it can add Hise modules within one of the projects files, but couldn't directly add the modules to the current Hise project it's interacting with.

              Also found it gets in to a loop of shutting down and re-opening Hise when the AI needs to create a new project. It seems not able to create new Hise projects, nor load xml's yet.

              These few limitations almost make it useable for me atm, but will test again soon 🤞

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @Bart
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                @Bart FYI I'm working on a TUI app at the moment that allows you to remote control HISE and perform all kinds of actions - the same command set is also exposed as an CLI interface for the LLM to use (and you can use the TUI app as a "log viewer" to trace back what the LLM did).

                This will include a feature complete builder mode with full undo support where you can add / remove modules and change parameters from the command line:

                https://github.com/christoph-hart/hise-cli/issues/5

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                • HISEnbergH
                  HISEnberg @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart excited to see what is in the works here! 😁

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                  Sonic Architect && Software Mercenary

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @HISEnberg
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                    @HISEnberg haha yes that is some funky stuff, my favorite part is how I replicated the module tree in ASCII art:

                    105ab78b-2dcc-424e-ac6d-a7d6cc7b2de5-image.png

                    I've also pulled in the entire setup.hise.dev stuff into this app - this bypasses some of the quirks of the website approach - now people just have to download this self-contained binary TUI app and type in /setup and it will perform all the steps from the setup workflow.

                    It also acts as logger for monitoring what the LLM does - if you have the TUI open and the LLM calls

                    hise-cli -builder add Sampler
                    

                    then this shows up in the chat history with an "LLM" tag.

                    I'm probably moving all the runtime functionality out of the MCP server as soon as the hise_cli is ready so the MCP becomes a read-only documentation / explorer tool that sits on the HISE doc server - currently it needs to be run locally so it can connect to the HISE Rest server, but since the Hise-cli is doing the same thing too it's easier to separate these tasks.

                    The MCP server also integrates with the new doc website and uses a small embedding model and a vector database for looking up docs & code examples - I evaluated different approaches, but that gives me the advantage of checking the quality of the MCP search.

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                      Bart
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                      Are these Hise settings working?

                      Recompile On File Change
                      Auto Start Rest Server

                      Not working here with Windows, on a month old develop build.

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                      • ustkU
                        ustk @Bart
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                        @Bart Recompile On File Change does work here on mac, the other things I don’t know…

                        Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart @ustk
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                          on a month old develop build.

                          A month old develop build is ancient material when you want to work with the AI tooling.

                          Recompile On File Change is disabled if the rest server is running - the rationale is that the LLM will make multiple edits and then send a recompile message when it's done - a recompilation after every filesave might interfere with this.

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                          • ustkU
                            ustk @Christoph Hart
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                            @Christoph-Hart clever move…

                            Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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