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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @Christoph Hart
      last edited by d.healey

      @Christoph-Hart The USE_IPP setting has moved from hi_core to hi_lac - any particular reason?

      Exporting as VST3 working here on Linux

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      • ChazroxC
        Chazrox @d.healey
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        @d-healey 🔥 🔥 🔥

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        • OrvillainO
          Orvillain
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          @Christoph-Hart Here are my results:

          Task Projucer Compile Flag Projucer hi_lac IPP Setting UseIppSetting Drew Results
          Compile HISE USE_IPP=0 Disabled n.a. OK
          Compile HISE USE_IPP=0 Enabled n.a. OK
          Compile HISE USE_IPP=1 Disabled n.a. OK
          Compile HISE USE_IPP=1 Enabled n.a. OK
          Compile FX DLL USE_IPP=0 Enabled UseIpp=Yes YES NETWORKS COMPILE
          Compile FX DLL USE_IPP=0 Enabled UseIpp=No NO NETWORKS DO NOT COMPILE !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\hi_tools\IppFFT.h(35,10): error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ipp.h': No such file or directory
          Compile FX DLL USE_IPP=1 Enabled UseIpp=Yes YES NETWORKS COMPILE
          Compile FX DLL USE_IPP=1 Enabled UseIpp=No NO NETWORKS DO NOT COMPILE !H:\development\HISE\HISE\hi_tools\hi_tools\IppFFT.h(35,10): error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'ipp.h': No such file or directory

          Now what I can't quite explain is that I've always had useIpp enabled inside the project compiler settings. So I don't even know how I started getting this issue.

          My result from this post:
          https://forum.hise.audio/post/105984

          Were with the settings prior to updating from the latest develop branch and rebuilding - and IPP would've been enabled for everything.

          The new network I created today, that compiles according to the chart above... doesn't seem to instantiate correctly. I'm still investigating this one though, so ignore for now.

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          • OrvillainO
            Orvillain @Christoph Hart
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            @Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

            I think you must not touch the preprocessor definition in the source code

            Just to clarify, I didn't edit any code. I'm talking about the setting here:
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            • ChazroxC
              Chazrox @d.healey
              last edited by

              @d-healey modes?? Please share!

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              • d.healeyD
                d.healey @Chazrox
                last edited by

                @Chazrox said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                modes?? Please share!

                What you talkin bout Willis?

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                • ChazroxC
                  Chazrox @d.healey
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                  @d-healey lol
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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Chazrox
                    last edited by

                    @Chazrox Trigger, Note, Loop

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                    • clevername27C
                      clevername27 @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart Meanwhile, I was fired by all three clients because of HISE bugs and secret ScriptNode documentation. sigh

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                        @Chazrox Trigger, Note, Loop

                        yeah but how do they work?

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                        • Christoph HartC
                          Christoph Hart @Lindon
                          last edited by

                          @Lindon just like the ableton one which I completely stole the feature list from.

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                          • LindonL
                            Lindon @Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart LOL damn! I don't use Ableton I will have to go look it up...

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @Lindon
                              last edited by Lindon

                              @Christoph-Hart

                              damn it again. A quick cursory look and this doesnt seem to resolve the "Note Generator sends Global envelope data to non listening voices" problem....

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                              • LindonL
                                Lindon @Lindon
                                last edited by

                                @Lindon maybe I should go away and state this problem clearly - there may be another solution...

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                                • Christoph HartC
                                  Christoph Hart @Lindon
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                                  @Lindon The note generation must happen one level below the global modulator container. You have to make sure that every voice that receives the global envelope data is started by the same event ID as this is the most robust way of assigning voice indexes.

                                  So if you have this setup:

                                  master chain
                                     global modulator container
                                        AHDSR
                                     sine generator
                                        Arpeggiator
                                        GlobalEnvelope / MatrixModulator
                                  

                                  it will not work because the arpeggiator will produce new events where the global modulator has no idea how to assign that to voices. But if you either move the global container and the sine wave into a new container or move the arpeggiator to the root level it should work correctly.

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                                  • LindonL
                                    Lindon @Christoph Hart
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                                    @Christoph-Hart yeah but sadly no _ want the arp to be shared(able) between voices...see my post:

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                                    Global Envelopes - The "filtered" voices problem.

                                    So I have a problem with Global envelopes...I'd really like to use them, but..in a multi-voice system they are problematic....here's why (perhaps someone kno...

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                                    • OrvillainO
                                      Orvillain
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                                      I'm getting a crash when using .setEffect() on a hardcoded polyphonic fx module. I'm doing something like this:

                                                      modeData["polyRMSlot"] = Synth.getSlotFX(modePath + "_polyRM");
                                                      modeData["polyRMSlot"].setEffect("polyRingMod");
                                      

                                      This is in the context of a loop, and modePath is the prefix of the name string.

                                      But interestingly, the crash only happens whenever I call Builder.clear()

                                      IE: On the first run, it doesn't crash. But if I try to rebuild the module tree, then it crashes.

                                      Going to try to reproduce this in a new project.

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                                      • OrvillainO
                                        Orvillain @Orvillain
                                        last edited by Orvillain

                                        @Orvillain @Christoph-Hart

                                        Right, I've confirmed this. Here is a demo project. Created on Windows. Not sure if you need to recompile the networks or not.

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                                        If you load this, the first time all will be fine. If you then press F5 to recompile the project, it will crash. If you remove the call to setEffect() then it doesn't crash.

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                                        I get a read access violation on:

                                        if(auto pitchChain = dynamic_cast<ModulatorChain*>(getParentProcessor(true)->getChildProcessor(ModulatorSynth::InternalChains::PitchModulation)))
                                        

                                        Details:

                                        Exception thrown: read access violation.
                                        hise::Processor::getParentProcessor**(...) returned nullptr.
                                        

                                        In this function:

                                        void HardcodedPolyphonicFX::connectToRuntimeTargets(scriptnode::OpaqueNode& on, bool shouldAdd)
                                        

                                        Hopefully that helps resolve the crash!

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @Orvillain
                                          last edited by

                                          Hopefully that helps resolve the crash!

                                          Nice one, it should be fixed now. I mean the builder docs says that you have to expect crashes but this is in fact a reproducable one :)

                                          IPP

                                          I made another attempt at this subject:

                                          • IPP on macOS and Linux is completely gonzo. You can use FFTW on Linux and VDSP on macOS (and ARM doesn't even support IPP so that was not very useful anyways).
                                          • The USE_IPP flag is now an internal flag and must not be set explicitely in any setting (in fact it will deliberately fail the compilation if it detects it being set from the outside). There are now only two things that determine whether IPP is used (on Windows only):
                                          1. In order to compile HISE with IPP support, the projucer setting Exporters -> VS2022 -> Use IPP (One API) must be set to "Static Library". This is the default now so people who want to build HISE without IPP on Windows must turn this off explicitely (readme is updated to reflect this).
                                          2. In order to compile your project with IPP, you must have compiled HISE with IPP following step 1 and then set the HISE setting Compiler Settings -> UseIpp to true. If you set this to true without HISE being compiled with IPP, it will throw an error (this is not really required but I think anything that boils down the ridiculous amount of scenarios is a good thing here). If the HISE setting UseIpp is true, it will automatically set the OneAPI setting in the autogenerated project file and subsequently set the internally used USE_IPP flag for the project compilation.
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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by d.healey

                                            @Christoph-Hart said in Roadmap to HISE 5:

                                            IPP on macOS and Linux

                                            Why not on Linux? It works well here. FFTW is only suitable for GPL projects.

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