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    • observantsoundO
      observantsound @David Healey
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      @David-Healey

      No Matrix entry in docs: Navigating to Audio/Modulators/Envelopes/list of Envelopes
      https://docs.hise.audio

      Matrix entry in docs: Found when googling "Hise Modulation Matrix"
      https://docs.hise.audio/hise-modules/modulators/envelopes/list/matrixmodulator.html

      https://docs.hise.dev/tutorials/scripting/index.html#modulation-matrix-tutorial
      This page says "This is a minimal example of all the new modulation features in HISE 5.0:"
      The snippet provided on that page is the same as the example snippet "Modulation Matrix Tutorial" from hise.exe help/browse example snippets. I think at least.

      I think syntax has changed in multiple places after that snippet was made.
      Like using ("") that's not accepted, or
      matrixHandler.setEditCallback(["my funky item", "another item"], function(index)
      argument mismatch. Expected 1, got 2.
      And .setDragCallback doesn't seem to exist anymore in the API list.

      What is the current state of the modulation matrix?
      I've seen posts from 3 years ago from @Christoph-Hart regarding the mod matrix being new.
      But like I said, I don't see matrixTargetId as a property in the interface property editor.

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        ustk @observantsound
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        @observantsound It's true that the doc and the Matrix Modulation itself isn't reputed fully functional yet (but still it works for some of us who patched it) and PRs have been made.

        But

        I don't see matrixTargetId as a property in the interface property editor.

        Only tells me you probably haven't compiled a recent develop branch, because there definitely is a property:

        Screenshot 2026-07-05 at 13.42.20.png

        Hise made me an F5 dude, any other app just suffers...

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          observantsound @ustk
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          @ustk I'm indeed still on the latest stable release...
          I read it as 4.10 instead of 4.1 so I was convinced I was on the latest version.
          I'll compile from the latest develop branch instead and try again.

          So what state is the mod matrix actually in?
          Do some things work but others don't?
          I'd just like to know what to look out for, if the documentation isn't super up to date.

          What are PRs?

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