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    • HISEnbergH
      HISEnberg @DanH
      last edited by HISEnberg

      @DanH This might be useful for you then ;)

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      @ulrik I've updated this. Since I don't really understand how the getBounds() work, and the last version didn't look right when changing the Attack Level I ...

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      • MorphoiceM
        Morphoice @DanH
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        @DanH damn! didn't know that was possible

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        • MorphoiceM
          Morphoice @DanH
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          @DanH yep the visual curve should be changed too... it fooled me once or twice lol. also the release seems very very curvy for a default unchangeable curve...

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          • MorphoiceM
            Morphoice @DanH
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            @DanH i'm not fixed on a release curve control, we can call it damping ratio/factor if that helps as long as we get one ;-))))) we'll have to shoot a few beers towards @Christoph-Hart

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            • DanHD
              DanH @HISEnberg
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              @HISEnberg said in node/scriptnode ahdsr envelope release timing mismatch:

              @DanH This might be useful for you then ;)

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              Ah yes I did look at that before. I'll take another look. @ulrik do you think you could figure out how to add nodes for the curves?

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @DanH
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                Nah the behaviour of these envelopes are kind of set in stone - it would change the sound of all existing HISE projects if I would start tampering with those curves.

                You can change the skew factor of the target parameter which gives you some control over how the envelope affects the modulation.

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                • MorphoiceM
                  Morphoice @Christoph Hart
                  last edited by Morphoice

                  @Christoph-Hart that makes sense. then again, a new seperate envelope with different parameters would be a good idea. Once I find out how and where the modules live in the source and how to add my own I might give it a try.

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @Morphoice
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                    @Morphoice Maybe it's time to finally give in and add a clone of the flexible envelope from KONTAKT. It might be tricky because I would have to somehow attach semantics to individual table points (so that eg. table point #1 always marks the attack level while the sustain loop will happen between table point #5 and #6) or whatever.

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                    • MorphoiceM
                      Morphoice @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart count me in ;)

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by Lindon

                        @Christoph-Hart said in node/scriptnode ahdsr envelope release timing mismatch:

                        @Morphoice Maybe it's time to finally give in and add a clone of the flexible envelope from KONTAKT. It might be tricky because I would have to somehow attach semantics to individual table points (so that eg. table point #1 always marks the attack level while the sustain loop will happen between table point #5 and #6) or whatever.

                        why not define (and display) a set of 3 zones: Start, Middle, End

                        the user can scale(drag) these zones, but everything in the Start zone(as many table points as/you like) will always execute exactly once at the start of the envelope(the attack portion) the middle area can again have as many areas as you like but will always repeat(the sustain portion), the end portion will again have as many points as you like but again will execute only once at note end(the release portion).

                        If you mandate that the last point in each segment must be the same as the first in the next segment then it should work fine - in fact the table envelope is 2/3 of the way there....

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey @Lindon
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                          @Lindon said in node/scriptnode ahdsr envelope release timing mismatch:

                          in fact the table envelope is 2/3 of the way there....

                          Yeah the table envelope is just missing a sustain section, so why not make a new table envelope with three tables?

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                          • DanHD
                            DanH @d.healey
                            last edited by DanH

                            Envelope looping would also be a great feature 😄

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                            • DanHD
                              DanH @d.healey
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                              @d-healey So we'd have to display 3 tables on our UI to control an Envelope?

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @DanH
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                                @DanH Actually I wasn't thinking of it being a front-end feature - I don't think Flex envelopes in Kontakt are controllable from the front-end... but this is HISE so you could control it from knobs, buttons, sliders, tables, etc. However now that you mention it, perhaps there is a better way, and I'm sure Christoph will find it.

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