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    • Dan KorneffD
      Dan Korneff @aaronventure
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      @aaronventure The tech is evolving so much that the scripts on google collab break just about every time there is an update. I got the google collab script to work for Proteus, but moved to local processing cause my GPU is better than the ones provided by google.

      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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        Dan Korneff @resonant
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        @resonant Invite them to the conversation

        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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          ccbl @Dan Korneff
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          @Dan-Korneff In this instance the dataset refers to the input output audio pairs that NAM uses for it's training, not the resulting model. Basically they're saying they added info in their training script that can detect the NAM audio pairs and train and Aida-X model based on those.

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            ccbl @resonant
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            @resonant that's awesome. Would love to pick their brains and see if we can get it up and running for the rest of us.

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            • Dan KorneffD
              Dan Korneff
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              Here's where I'm at with the process:
              https://gitlab.korneff.co/publicgroup/hise-neuralnetworktrainingscripts

              I have used the scripts from https://github.com/AidaDSP/Automated-GuitarAmpModelling/tree/aidadsp_devel as a starting point.

              This will allow you to create a dataset from your input/output audio file, train the model from the dataset, and then convert the model to Keras so you can use it RTNeural.

              @Christoph-Hart The final model is making HISE crash. I thought I was doing something wrong because some of the values for "shape" are null, but I've downloaded other files created with the source script and they are null in the same places.

              Here's one for example:
              JMP Low Input.json

              It's possible that the script is not formatting the json properly, but I don't know what a correct model looks like to compare to.

              Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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              • Christoph HartC
                Christoph Hart @Dan Korneff
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                @Dan-Korneff That's the JSON from the sine generator example:

                {
                  "layers": "SineModel(\n  (network): Sequential(\n    (0): Linear(in_features=1, out_features=8, bias=True)\n    (1): Tanh()\n    (2): Linear(in_features=8, out_features=4, bias=True)\n    (3): Tanh()\n    (4): Linear(in_features=4, out_features=1, bias=True)\n  )\n)",
                  "weights": {
                    "network.0.weight": [
                      [
                        1.046385407447815
                      ],
                      [
                        1.417808413505554
                      ],
                      [
                        0.9530450105667114
                      ],
                      [
                        1.118412375450134
                      ],
                      [
                        -2.003693819046021
                      ],
                      [
                        1.485351920127869
                      ],
                      [
                        -1.323277235031128
                      ],
                      [
                        -1.482439756393433
                      ]
                    ],
                    "network.0.bias": [
                      -0.4485535621643066,
                      -1.284180760383606,
                      1.995141625404358,
                      -1.036547422409058,
                      0.2926304638385773,
                      0.4770179986953735,
                      0.3244697153568268,
                      0.4108103811740875
                    ],
                    "network.2.weight": [
                      [
                        -1.791297316551208,
                        -0.3762974143028259,
                        -0.3934035897254944,
                        0.1596113294363022,
                        0.5510663390159607,
                        -1.115586280822754,
                        0.678738534450531,
                        1.327430963516235
                      ],
                      [
                        0.3413433432579041,
                        1.86607301235199,
                        -0.217528447508812,
                        2.568317174911499,
                        0.3797312676906586,
                        -0.1846907883882523,
                        0.04422684758901596,
                        -0.0883311927318573
                      ],
                      [
                        0.3113365173339844,
                        0.8516308069229126,
                        -0.6042391061782837,
                        0.9669480919837952,
                        -1.354665994644165,
                        0.1234097927808762,
                        -1.171357274055481,
                        -0.9616029858589172
                      ],
                      [
                        -0.5073869824409485,
                        -0.7385743856430054,
                        0.3118444979190826,
                        -0.9642266035079956,
                        1.899434208869934,
                        -0.1497718989849091,
                        1.684132099151611,
                        0.895214855670929
                      ]
                    ],
                    "network.2.bias": [
                      -0.6971003413200378,
                      0.3228396475315094,
                      -0.6209602355957031,
                      0.1816271394491196
                    ],
                    "network.4.weight": [
                      [
                        -0.9233435988426208,
                        1.108147859573364,
                        -0.8966623544692993,
                        0.394584596157074
                      ]
                    ],
                    "network.4.bias": [
                      0.06727132201194763
                    ]
                  }
                }
                

                So apparently it doesn't resolve the python code for defining the layer composition but uses a single string that is parsed. That's the output of a custom python script I wrote and run on a model built with TorchStudio, but if your model is "the standard" way, I'll make sure that it loads correctly too as these things look like syntactic sugar to me.

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
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                  Here's the link to the tutorial again:

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                  But I realized your example looks more or less like the Tensorflow model in this directory. Which method are you using for loading the model?

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                    Lindon @Dan Korneff
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                    @Dan-Korneff said in Simple ML neural network:

                    @resonant Invite them to the conversation

                    @resonant
                    yeah, maybe - they asked me to get re-involved with them on some ML stuff as they were a bit stuck.....it didnt go anywhere, so they may well still be stuck or they found someone else to do the coding for them....your call

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                    • Dan KorneffD
                      Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart The structure does look like TensorFlow, but the script is using torch libraries to create the model:

                      torch
                      torch.optim
                      torch.cuda
                      torch.optim.Adam
                      torch.optim
                      

                      I was using this example code to load the model:

                      const var pt = Engine.createNeuralNetwork("PytorchNetwork");;
                      
                      // Load the model layout & weights that were exported as JSON
                      const var modelJSON = pythonRoot.getChildFile("model_keras.json").loadAsObject();
                      
                      // Load the model & weights:
                      pt.loadPytorchModel(modelJSON);
                      

                      when I load the model into the Neural node, HISE checks out.
                      spongebob-meme-1.jpg

                      I've run through the MNIST dataset tutorial a couple times to get a basic idea of how TorchStudio works, but I'm not sure how to adapt the scripts to work there.

                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                        ccbl
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                        I asked Jatin to have a quick look through the thread to see if he could see any issues, he just had this to say.

                        "Hmmm, it seems to me that the model JSON file that is being loaded into the "Neural Node" is structured as a TensorFlow-style JSON file, but it's being loaded with the HISE's loadPytorchModel() method? I don't really know what the Neural Node does internally, so idk how much I can help beyond that."

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                        • Dan KorneffD
                          Dan Korneff
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                          Using loadTensorFlowModel() was indeed the solution. I'll try to make some tutorials on training and loading models this weekend.

                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                            Lindon @Dan Korneff
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                            @Dan-Korneff that would be very cool. Do these models include the ability to define parameters(like tone controls on an amp)? Or are they static snap shots?

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                              Dan Korneff @Lindon
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                              @Lindon said in Simple ML neural network:

                              @Dan-Korneff that would be very cool. Do these models include the ability to define parameters(like tone controls on an amp)? Or are they static snap shots?

                              The training scripts can create parameterized models, but I've only tested a static model so far.
                              Once I get my sea legs I'll pull in @Christoph-Hart to figure out multiple parameters.

                              Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                aaronventure @Dan Korneff
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                                @Dan-Korneff man this sounds great, thanks.

                                how are you finding the results so far comparing the capture and the model output?

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                                  Dan Korneff @aaronventure
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                                  @aaronventure I haven't gotten that far yet. Still in the "does this even work" stage 😀

                                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                    griffinboy @ccbl
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                                    @ccbl

                                    Chowdhury? I'd love to talk to him! His dsp is very inspiring

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                                      scottmire
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                                      Apologies if this has already been discussed....but I would think this would be low hanging fruit:

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                                      GitHub - Tr3m/nam-juce: A JUCE implementation of the Neural Amp Modeler Plugin

                                      A JUCE implementation of the Neural Amp Modeler Plugin - Tr3m/nam-juce

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                                        aaronventure @scottmire
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                                        @scottmire keep in mind that this is GPLv3 licensed

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                                          ccbl @Dan Korneff
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                                          @Dan-Korneff What sample rate were you using? I'd love to train at 96khz or even 192khz for aliasing reduction reasons. My ultimate plan is to stack several smaller models of individual components together sandwiched between regular DSP so I think reducing aliasing should be important in this case.

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                                            ccbl @griffinboy
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                                            @griffinboy Here's the link to their discord channel for RTNeural

                                            https://discord.gg/enmpURqR

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