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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @Dan Korneff
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      @dustbro I bet all of these issues are related to the 96K rate.

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      • Christoph HartC
        Christoph Hart
        last edited by

        Yeah I never ever used 96kHz, theoretically it should be fine, but I am sure there is something fishy.

        Does the sampler crash go away with 48kHz samples?

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart
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          1. The crash when removing samplers is fixed - was something silly that slipped in.
          2. Forget about Monolith without compression, it's just a deprecated thing, there's no reason to not use the compression (the performance overhead is neglible). I'll remove the option soon and the option with compression works with 96kHz.
          3. Might be the same reason as 1. so please check if it remains.
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          • Dan KorneffD
            Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart Awesome! Gonna check now. I just tested my current version with 48K and it still exists.

            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              FYI, that's the code that handles samplerates:

              if (isOldMonolith)
              {
                  return 44100.0; // doesn't matter anyway (the sample rate is stored externally)
              }
              else
              {
                  const static double sampleRates[4] = { 44100.0, 48000.0, 88200.0, 96000.0 };
                  const uint8 srIndex = (sampleDataByte & 0xC0) >> 6;
                  return sampleRates[srIndex];
              }
              

              Now it also makes sense why @staiff is struggling with his 27,4kHz sounds :)

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              • Dan KorneffD
                Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @Christoph-Hart On this end:
                Monolith (fast Decompression) works!
                Monolith (low file size) crashes sampler when it preloads the samplemap
                Monolith (no compression) plays wrong pitch.
                I guess I'll stick with the first option ;)

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  What first option? I don't know what you talking about. Move along, nothing to see here :)

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                  • Dan KorneffD
                    Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @Christoph-Hart 😄

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                    • staiffS
                      staiff @Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      @Christoph-Hart said in Sampler issues latest build:

                      Now it also makes sense why @staiff is struggling with his 27,4kHz sounds :)

                      Yes. but also 27.4 Khz samples is not common in 2018/19 (and even since the 90s)
                      just the frequency used by Linndrum, Emulator II, Sx samplers, etc. ... from the 80's.

                      Today it's not useful to go less than 44100. Better using 44/48/96 Khz and a bitcrusher Fx (and other scripts). if you script well the behaviour of 80's sampler you can obtain the same result (or pretty close).

                      but the part of code that handles samplerates makes sence now about my problem. ;)

                      for my part i don't go up to 48 Khz, but in 24 bits. i feel it better and more digestible than 96 khz (16 or 24 bit).
                      96Khz (24 bit) is only used by me for music creation mastering.

                      Excuse me i'm French.

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                      • Dan KorneffD
                        Dan Korneff
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                        @Christoph-Hart Just compiled the latest version. HISE is crashing directly after you create a monolith. Tried using HLAC - No Normalization and Full Dynamics. On restart, Project will refuse to load unless you change the Samplemap XML savemode back to 1.

                        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                        • Dan KorneffD
                          Dan Korneff
                          last edited by Dan Korneff

                          I just noticed in the console, I'm getting this error during export of Monolith:

                          Master Chain:! The sample Snare multi mic.ch2 wasn't found
                          

                          and

                          Master Chain:! Error at loading sample Snare multi mic.ch2: File is corrupt
                          

                          And debugging via Visual studio:

                          Unhandled exception at 0x00007FF9CE321B28 (HISE x64 16 Out.dll) in AudioPluginHost.exe: 0xC000001D: Illegal Instruction.
                          

                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff
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                            DISASSEMBLY.PNG

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              What CPU are you using?

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                              • Dan KorneffD
                                Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                @Christoph-Hart cpu.PNG

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                                • Dan KorneffD
                                  Dan Korneff
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                                  @Christoph-Hart
                                  I just realized that I wasn't using the debugging version of HISE.
                                  Here's some info that might be more relevant:
                                  debug monolith.PNG

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                                  • Dan KorneffD
                                    Dan Korneff
                                    last edited by

                                    debug 2.PNG

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                                      Dan Korneff
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                                      debug 3.PNG

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                                      • Dan KorneffD
                                        Dan Korneff
                                        last edited by

                                        and here's the final error that causes crash when preloading monolith
                                        debug 4.PNG

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                                        • Dan KorneffD
                                          Dan Korneff
                                          last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart Is there anything else I can do to troubleshoot this issue?

                                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                          • Dan KorneffD
                                            Dan Korneff
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm also having a heck of a time with playback of the sampler in general.
                                            I've notices a couple of issues (other than overlapping midi not triggering samples).

                                            • Even if there is no overlapping midi, random wont trigger. (overlapping midi will 100% not trigger)
                                            • using the freeze function in Cubase or bouncing down the audio in Cubase + Reaper gets an unexpected result. Audio gets chopped off (I think I experienced this during the overlap midi thread as well)

                                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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