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    • lalalandsynthL
      lalalandsynth @ulrik
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      @ulrik Will a midifx plugin output CC as well ?
      Is the midiFX plugin "format" only for Logic ?

      Really need to be able to get midi/cc output from a plugin.

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      • ulrikU
        ulrik @lalalandsynth
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        @lalalandsynth I don't know about cc output but I guess it will work, however the Hise MidiFXPlugin is only working in Logic I guess, I tried in Ableton Live 13 but no luck.

        In this plugin I'm using an arpeggiator which will trigger on incoming midi and output the midi from the arp

        I am investigating different scenarios and I will tell you if I try the midi CC stuff

        video

        To be able to build a MidiFXPlugin I had to enable it in the projucer project

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        This snippet should work when compiled, if Hise is compiled with "HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN" enabled

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        • LindonL
          Lindon @ulrik
          last edited by

          @ulrik - so have you tried in the default standard DAW of all developers (it seems) --- Reaper?

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          • ulrikU
            ulrik @Lindon
            last edited by

            @Lindon yes, now I have made a short test and it seems to work in Reaper :)
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            • LindonL
              Lindon @ulrik
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              @ulrik said in MIDI out?:

              @Lindon yes, now I have made a short test and it seems to work in Reaper :)
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              Oooookaaay... so its possibly not: "only works in Logic",

              but is instead its: "only doesnt work in Live"?

              Anyone else got any other esoteric rarely used DAW (like say Cubase etc.) that can test MIDI plugins using @ulrik 's kindly donated snippet?

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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @Lindon
                last edited by

                @Lindon ok, a bit hasty there, sorry :)

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @ulrik
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                  @ulrik said in MIDI out?:

                  @Lindon ok, a bit hasty there, sorry :)

                  well dont jump on yourself too early - lets see which other truculent DAWs there are....

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                  • ulrikU
                    ulrik @ulrik
                    last edited by ulrik

                    @ulrik Further explorations, the compiled vst3 version does NOT work in Reaper, but the vst2 does, the au version doesn't show up at all

                    Reaper records the MidiFX Plugins midi output, so if playing the recording back, in reaper, the plugin will not be affected (you can disable it) because the result is already on the track.

                    Logic record the pressed key and NOT the plugins midi output so the MidiFX plugin has to be activated when playing back the recording.

                    In Reaper the instrument will read the CC coming from the MidiFX plugin, and it will be recorded in Reaper

                    In Logic the instrument will be affected by the CC Controller values coming from the plugin, but it will not be recorded

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey
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                      Is this option needed too?

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                      • ulrikU
                        ulrik @d.healey
                        last edited by

                        @d-healey I had it enabled when I compiled and tried the plugin before, I'm compiling right now without it enabled, I'll let you know what happens

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                        • ulrikU
                          ulrik @d.healey
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                          @d-healey It works the same in the plugin I tried, enabled or disabled.
                          (arpeggiator so it creates its own midi events, however the arp is triggered by an incoming keypress  😳

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey
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                            What about this - https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/65cf260b7057853c187d4a4ac1147707a83bb5c0 ?

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                            • ulrikU
                              ulrik @d.healey
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                              @d-healey interesting, thanks :)

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                              • lalalandsynthL
                                lalalandsynth @d.healey
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                                @d-healey NIIICE!

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey
                                  last edited by d.healey

                                  @Christoph-Hart Is this the option you referred to in another thread?

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                                  • Christoph HartC
                                    Christoph Hart @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey yes

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                                    • ulrikU
                                      ulrik @Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart Where do you enable it?

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @ulrik
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                                        • ulrikU
                                          ulrik @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey Haven't that option always been there? So what is the difference now?

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @ulrik
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                                            @ulrik Now Christoph has implemented MIDI out

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