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    • LindonL
      Lindon
      last edited by

      Ok quick question.. can we do MIDI out yet? I searched but couldn't find an answer here

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      • ulrikU
        ulrik @Lindon
        last edited by

        @Lindon the only way I have been able to get midi out is from a Hise compiled MidiFX Plugin inside Logic

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        • lalalandsynthL
          lalalandsynth @ulrik
          last edited by

          @ulrik Will a midifx plugin output CC as well ?
          Is the midiFX plugin "format" only for Logic ?

          Really need to be able to get midi/cc output from a plugin.

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          • ulrikU
            ulrik @lalalandsynth
            last edited by

            @lalalandsynth I don't know about cc output but I guess it will work, however the Hise MidiFXPlugin is only working in Logic I guess, I tried in Ableton Live 13 but no luck.

            In this plugin I'm using an arpeggiator which will trigger on incoming midi and output the midi from the arp

            I am investigating different scenarios and I will tell you if I try the midi CC stuff

            video

            To be able to build a MidiFXPlugin I had to enable it in the projucer project

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            This snippet should work when compiled, if Hise is compiled with "HISE_MIDIFX_PLUGIN" enabled

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            • LindonL
              Lindon @ulrik
              last edited by

              @ulrik - so have you tried in the default standard DAW of all developers (it seems) --- Reaper?

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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @Lindon
                last edited by

                @Lindon yes, now I have made a short test and it seems to work in Reaper :)
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                • LindonL
                  Lindon @ulrik
                  last edited by

                  @ulrik said in MIDI out?:

                  @Lindon yes, now I have made a short test and it seems to work in Reaper :)
                  Skärmavbild 2022-07-24 kl. 18.55.05.png

                  Oooookaaay... so its possibly not: "only works in Logic",

                  but is instead its: "only doesnt work in Live"?

                  Anyone else got any other esoteric rarely used DAW (like say Cubase etc.) that can test MIDI plugins using @ulrik 's kindly donated snippet?

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                  • ulrikU
                    ulrik @Lindon
                    last edited by

                    @Lindon ok, a bit hasty there, sorry :)

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                    • LindonL
                      Lindon @ulrik
                      last edited by

                      @ulrik said in MIDI out?:

                      @Lindon ok, a bit hasty there, sorry :)

                      well dont jump on yourself too early - lets see which other truculent DAWs there are....

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                      • ulrikU
                        ulrik @ulrik
                        last edited by ulrik

                        @ulrik Further explorations, the compiled vst3 version does NOT work in Reaper, but the vst2 does, the au version doesn't show up at all

                        Reaper records the MidiFX Plugins midi output, so if playing the recording back, in reaper, the plugin will not be affected (you can disable it) because the result is already on the track.

                        Logic record the pressed key and NOT the plugins midi output so the MidiFX plugin has to be activated when playing back the recording.

                        In Reaper the instrument will read the CC coming from the MidiFX plugin, and it will be recorded in Reaper

                        In Logic the instrument will be affected by the CC Controller values coming from the plugin, but it will not be recorded

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                        • d.healeyD
                          d.healey
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                          Is this option needed too?

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                          • ulrikU
                            ulrik @d.healey
                            last edited by

                            @d-healey I had it enabled when I compiled and tried the plugin before, I'm compiling right now without it enabled, I'll let you know what happens

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                            • ulrikU
                              ulrik @d.healey
                              last edited by

                              @d-healey It works the same in the plugin I tried, enabled or disabled.
                              (arpeggiator so it creates its own midi events, however the arp is triggered by an incoming keypress  😳

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey
                                last edited by

                                What about this - https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/commit/65cf260b7057853c187d4a4ac1147707a83bb5c0 ?

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                                • ulrikU
                                  ulrik @d.healey
                                  last edited by

                                  @d-healey interesting, thanks :)

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                                  • lalalandsynthL
                                    lalalandsynth @d.healey
                                    last edited by

                                    @d-healey NIIICE!

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey
                                      last edited by d.healey

                                      @Christoph-Hart Is this the option you referred to in another thread?

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                                      • Christoph HartC
                                        Christoph Hart @d.healey
                                        last edited by

                                        @d-healey yes

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                                        • ulrikU
                                          ulrik @Christoph Hart
                                          last edited by

                                          @Christoph-Hart Where do you enable it?

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                                          • d.healeyD
                                            d.healey @ulrik
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