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    • staiffS
      staiff
      last edited by staiff

      For FX plugin don't forget to implement the usersettings (settingsButton.js) parameters because it works perfectly with me (reverb, delay, dynamics, etc. ... all compiled as FX plugins) because the most problem is the Buffer size and samplerate.

      I remember a rompler made with Rackafx who only works at 44100. my friend used Ableton live with 48000 and had a semi tone up bug for the notes (played C and eared C#). i explained him to setup Live in 44100 and all was fixed.

      maybe the same thing for your DAWs and your FX plugins from Hise.

      Put the settings widget in your HISE plugins and take a look at your DAW parameter.

      Sure it will fix it, because here not any latence problem with FX plugins.

      EDIT: and yes, the last HISE commit fixed the "load samples" problem, i asked it to Christoph on one of my last last threads and he did (fixed) it ;)

      Excuse me i'm French.

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      • resonantR
        resonant
        last edited by resonant

        @christoph-hart I've tested latest build and unfortunately problem persists :(

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        • orangeO
          orange @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          Is it ok now? Did you fix this latency problem? @christoph-hart

          develop Branch / XCode 13.1
          macOS Monterey / M1 Max

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          • resonantR
            resonant
            last edited by resonant

            There is an another problem too; that I've posted before, for merged output on multi channel projects.
            Thread & Video is here: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/616/merging-all-distributed-outputs-master-gain-problem-on-fx-plugins

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              I have checked this with the most recent DynamicFX example and there is no latency issue on FL Studio for me (FL Studio 12 64bit). There is some latency (512 samples) which is added for the plugin, but this is because FL Studio is constantly changing buffer sizes and I don't feel like hacking around the entire codebase just to make it work for this particular DAW.

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              • resonantR
                resonant @Christoph Hart
                last edited by resonant

                @christoph-hart said in Latency problem on FX plugins...:

                I have checked this with the most recent DynamicFX example and there is no latency issue on FL Studio for me (FL Studio 12 64bit). There is some latency (512 samples) which is added for the plugin, but this is because FL Studio is constantly changing buffer sizes and I don't feel like hacking around the entire codebase just to make it work for this particular DAW.

                It's not on FL studio only, I've used it on Reaper and Studio One and it does the same latency.

                • So, if this issue doesn't apper on your system; what can cause that, what do you suggest? I'm using Visual Studio 2015. And should I clean Appdata folders before building Hise?

                • What about the multi out merging problem? Routing matrix doesn't merge channels. It works on Hise but not working on host (Reaper, Studio One, Cubase...)

                Best regards...

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                • staiffS
                  staiff
                  last edited by

                  just tried a 10 FX rack (reverb, chorus, filter, saturator, etc. ...) in 32 and 64 bits VST WIN in Studio One, reaper and cakewalk/bandlab and all working well. No latency.

                  made with the latest version of HISE in date.

                  i use ASIO (behringer WDM audio) and ASIO4all.

                  Excuse me i'm French.

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                  • resonantR
                    resonant @staiff
                    last edited by

                    @staiff It was doing that on Dynamics FX. Did you tried it?
                    Tweaking attack & release knobs also weirdly changes latency. I've downloaded ASIO SDK again from Steinberg and now the latency is very low.

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                    • staiffS
                      staiff
                      last edited by

                      yes tried the dynamic.

                      i remember with my old PC all worked fine since years. but one day adding FX in studio one caused latency. i didn't change anything. never found why. never found what caused this problem.

                      now i've a brand new PC so fresh installs, and all work fine with no latency with the same ASIO, DAW, VST and external soundcard.

                      so i don't know. HISE plugs is not the problem.
                      It's inside your config, but really don't know why/where (like me before).

                      Excuse me i'm French.

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        Ah now I understand. The dynamics module has a "lookahead" mode when you turn the limiter attack below 10ms (or something like that). In this case it needs to analyse the future signal hence introduce latency.

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                        • resonantR
                          resonant @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @christoph-hart Yes you are right, probably it is the reason.

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            @Christoph-Hart said in Latency problem on FX plugins...:

                            The dynamics module has a "lookahead" mode when you turn the limiter attack below 10ms (or something like that). In this case it needs to analyse the future signal hence introduce latency.

                            I'm just noticing this now. Is there a way to compensate for the "look ahead" latency?

                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                            • SteveRiggsS
                              SteveRiggs @Dan Korneff
                              last edited by

                              @dustbro I just set the min value in properties to 10ms so it never goes below

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                              • Dan KorneffD
                                Dan Korneff @SteveRiggs
                                last edited by

                                @SteveRiggs said in Latency problem on FX plugins...:

                                I just set the min value in properties to 10ms so it never goes below

                                is 10ms the actual value?

                                Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                • Dan KorneffD
                                  Dan Korneff
                                  last edited by

                                  @Christoph-Hart Adjusting the Limiter attack during playback creates some nasty audio glitching. Is this a known issue?

                                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                  • SteveRiggsS
                                    SteveRiggs @Dan Korneff
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustbro

                                    If you set your attack sliders properties like this it will work with 10ms as the min value :)

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                                    • C
                                      clumsybear
                                      last edited by

                                      Good to know, wasn’t aware of the lookahead functionality below 10ms

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                                      • ustkU
                                        ustk
                                        last edited by

                                        What if you use Engine.setLatencySamples(Engine.getSamplesForMilliSeconds(10))?
                                        10ms attack is a big min value for a limiter...

                                        Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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