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    • ustkU
      ustk @Dan Korneff
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      @dustbro I wonder if the procedure is not to report the biggest latency, and then compensate IN the plugin for lower latency configuration by adding the difference...
      I reckon I've seen that one day but not 100% sure...

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        Dan Korneff @ustk
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        @ustk said in HISE FX and delay compensation:

        report the biggest latency, and then compensate IN the plugin

        Not a bad idea!

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        • lalalandsynthL
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          Just to be clear , does the plugin not normally compensate for latency unless I do something specific to make it do that ?

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            Dan Korneff @lalalandsynth
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            @lalalandsynth said in HISE FX and delay compensation:

            Just to be clear , does the plugin not normally compensate for latency unless I do something specific to make it do that ?

            It does not automatically compensate for latency.

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            • ustkU
              ustk @lalalandsynth
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              @lalalandsynth I don't think any plugin can compensate its own latency, it's the DAW's job. Plugins can only tell the DAW how much it needs

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              • lalalandsynthL
                lalalandsynth @ustk
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                @ustk yes, that is what i meant does it report the latency without doing anything specific to make that happen? :)

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                • ustkU
                  ustk @lalalandsynth
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                  @lalalandsynth Yes the report is automatic. you can also set your own with Engine.setLatencySamples(int latency)

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                    Dan Korneff @ustk
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                    @ustk said in HISE FX and delay compensation:

                    the report is automatic

                    If I don't set the compensation, my plugins always report a latency of 0. I don't think that's correct, right?

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                    • ustkU
                      ustk @Dan Korneff
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                      @dustbro I might have wrong… I'll test that tomorrow

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                        • Dan KorneffD
                          Dan Korneff
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                          I could use some suggestions on how to improve my approach to handling latency in my projects. I've currently been manually measuring latency and compensating for it based on which DSP nodes and oversampling are active. While this works well for static latency, I’m running into a challenge when I need to dynamically update the latency.
                          Right now, I’m using:
                          prepareToPlay() to get the initial latency with Engine.getLatencySamples()
                          processBlock() to set latency using setLatencySamples()
                          This works well for static latencies, but now that I’m introducing multiple oversampling filters, I need to adjust latency dynamically, depending on whether the user selects Linear-Phase or Minimum-Phase filtering. Since Linear-Phase filtering can add up to ~120 samples, I don’t want to set a fixed latency that high, as it would negatively impact real-time usage.
                          I need a way to recalculate latency when the processing mode changes. For example, when switching between oversampling filters. The goal is to update latency based on active DSP modules.
                          @Christoph-Hart or anyone else have suggestions on how to dynamically recalculate the latency?

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                            aaronventure @Dan Korneff
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                            @Dan-Korneff can you measure the latency of your modules, put it in consts and make the call to set the new latency to report whenever the user changes any of the controls that affect it?

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart @aaronventure
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                              I would not trust every host to support dynamic latency so I‘d definitely check this thoroughly.

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                                Dan Korneff @aaronventure
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                                @aaronventure said in HISE FX and delay compensation:

                                @Dan-Korneff can you measure the latency of your modules, put it in consts and make the call to set the new latency to report whenever the user changes any of the controls that affect it?

                                That's definitely plan B. I guess I need to use a global variable to get this data into scriptFX?

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                                  aaronventure @Dan Korneff
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                                  @Dan-Korneff why do you need to get it into script fx in the first place?

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                                    Dan Korneff @aaronventure
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                                    @aaronventure scriptFX is the only place you can access the processBlock to call Engine.setLatencySamples()

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                                      Christoph Hart @Dan Korneff
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                                      @Dan-Korneff Why do you need to access processBlock?

                                      If you need the sample rate / block size for the calculation, attach a broadcaster to the processing specs.

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                                        aaronventure @Dan Korneff
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                                        @Dan-Korneff I'm calling it from a control callback where sample offset is adjusted and it works just fine (in Reaper).

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                                        • Dan KorneffD
                                          Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
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                                          @Christoph-Hart I was just following your Latency Test repo

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                                            Dan Korneff @aaronventure
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                                            @aaronventure Damn... Just tested and it works like you said. Happy days!

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