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    • LindonL
      Lindon
      last edited by

      Hello everyone, so right now I'm running a different kind of summer sale over at Channel Robot. It's "Name Your Own Price" (min = $5 , max = list price). It's for my Kontakt instruments ONLY - and I'm pretty sure no one here needs or wants any of those but on one of the facebook groups I was asked to provide some feedback on how it went after the sale finishes. It occurred to me that this would be useful information to all of us - in case you were thinking of running with this format for your own product sets. So whenits finished I will try and remember to post some stats here.

      Meanwhile - it's been running for 1.5 days now, so this is whats happened so far:

      In the last 36 hours I've made 26 sales - selling 82 items (yep almost no one is picking up a single item..) for a total revenue of $429.00 - yes almost everyone (90%) are paying the minimum $5.00.

      I am getting the feeling that if I'd set the minimum at $10 I wouldnt be so much down on sales and up a fair bit on revenue - but who knows. I will try and keep you posted - remind me at the end of August in case I forget.

      HISE Development for hire.
      www.channelrobot.com

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
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        I like things like this. It's fun to play with the variables. I wonder if some amount was being donated to charity would people pay more... or what about a tiered payment, so every time you cross a certain threshold you get an additional product.

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        • ustkU
          ustk @d.healey
          last edited by ustk

          @d-healey @Lindon Yep I like the idea of increasing the % discount when adding products.
          It's something that can be kept all the time and you can add let say a fix X% when on sale...
          But this makes sense when you have a certain number of products, I'm far from that 😁

          Aside of that, what I wonder more is marketing strategies. I know it's about having different things (website, social media, banners & advert, videos…) well tuned, but what is more important first I have no idea (except website of course)

          Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            This is great, I wouldn't be against a kind of sales tactic thread where we all pitch little tricks to help each other get more conversions.

            A great thing I've learned is to bundle, then pitch the bundle on the product page of each individual item. Something like "this product is part of X bundle, grab it and save Y%", as long as it isn't too intrusive. I've doubled my average order value by upselling a bundle.

            Edit: since others have already talked a bit about bundling, I'll add that a consistent brand/image is also very important. If someone clicks your green ad, and your website is purple, they're likely to bounce.

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              Crystal Audio @Lindon
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              I'm considering adding a one time pop up panel to my plugin that comes up after two weeks with a link to my website and a simple message like "Come check out the latest Crystal Audio Products!"

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              • lalalandsynthL
                lalalandsynth @Crystal Audio
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                @Crystal-Audio I would be annoyed if that happened in a plugin I bought to be honest.

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                • LindonL
                  Lindon
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                  OK so as promised, here I am at the end of the "name your Own Price" sale... to provide a few stats.

                  So the sale ran from 27 June to 5th August ( so a little over a month) and I did spend a modest amount of time pushing it on VI-Control, KVR and facebook.

                  Referrer order:

                  1. VI-Control
                  2. KVR
                  3. Reddit (who knew??)
                  4. Search Engines
                  5. facebook

                  All up I had 169 orders for 469 products. Yep still got a lot of multiple-product orders. For an all up revenue of $2658.05 (who was that person who paid $5.05 for something?). As you can guess more than 90% of people paid the minimum $5.00 for each product - so if you are going down this path then make sure your minimum is something you can live with. I know most people who run these say most customers pay way above the minimum, but frankly I'm unsurprised given the audience here is musicians - never found them to be the most generous of individuals (sorry if that offend anyone - remember I'm a musician too...)

                  My take: As a vehicle for getting product into peoples hands its a good approach, many many customers were very grateful I ran this and said so in public forums, but as a sustainable business model its never going to fly. To do this you need a fairly extensive (and pretty played out) back catalogue- which is what I had/have so it was minimal pain for me.

                  OK thats it have at it..

                  HISE Development for hire.
                  www.channelrobot.com

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by

                    Really invaluable information for people starting out. Cheers @Lindon Woulda bet on irc over reddit..lol

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      Thanks for updating us on this! Was that total profit, or total sales? Aka were you running paid ads on Vi/KVR/Facebook or just posting in groups and forums?

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                        adriano
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                        @Lindon it is an interesting approach. however you haven't won much. can sponsor a little more? why didn't you sell your vst instead? the bank kontakt it's getting a bit out of date isn't it?

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                        • lalalandsynthL
                          lalalandsynth
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                          Thanks for sharing , valuable info.

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                          https://lalalandsynth.com/

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                          • LindonL
                            Lindon @adriano
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                            @adriano said in My experimental sales approach...:

                            @Lindon it is an interesting approach. however you haven't won much. can sponsor a little more? why didn't you sell your vst instead? the bank kontakt it's getting a bit out of date isn't it?

                            well if you have a better way to "win" then please please share it with us...

                            HISE Development for hire.
                            www.channelrobot.com

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
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                              Thanks for sharing the details Lindon. I am asking myself how the pricing in this low-budget range affects the number of sales and I would assume that the sweet spot is a bit higher. I just can't imagine people seeing a plugin they want to have, but then say "5$ is fine, but I wouldn't pay 10$ for it".

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                              • LindonL
                                Lindon @Christoph Hart
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                                @Christoph-Hart said in My experimental sales approach...:

                                Thanks for sharing the details Lindon. I am asking myself how the pricing in this low-budget range affects the number of sales and I would assume that the sweet spot is a bit higher. I just can't imagine people seeing a plugin they want to have, but then say "5$ is fine, but I wouldn't pay 10$ for it".

                                Yep that's my EXACT feeling too. But of course there's some reputational push-pull here. Selling stuff for $5.00 can badly harm CR's reputation for making "professional" grade products - but then that's the nice thing about Name Your Price - I'm not actually listing the price as $5 - so that's an advantage for this approach. Plus there's a bunch of people out in the interwebs who say very very nice things about my products - and this was one more opportunity to do so - only on a bigger stage - which was a really nice add on benefit I didn't see coming.

                                But those things aside - yes I agree - I cant see how people wouldnt pay $10 - so setting your lower bounds is still "tricky"

                                HISE Development for hire.
                                www.channelrobot.com

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                                  adriano @Lindon
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                                  @Lindon instagram sponsorship, partnership with well-known djs +, paetenariat with youtube channels. a friend won more than 50k € with soundbank ...

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                                  • LindonL
                                    Lindon @adriano
                                    last edited by

                                    @adriano said in My experimental sales approach...:

                                    @Lindon instagram sponsorship, partnership with well-known djs +, paetenariat with youtube channels. a friend won more than 50k € with soundbank ...

                                    Great, do you know any of these DJs or youTube Channels?

                                    HISE Development for hire.
                                    www.channelrobot.com

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