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      tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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      @Christoph-Hart I'll try that, thanks!

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        tomekslesicki @d.healey
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        @d-healey said in Samplers as round robins?:

        So let's say each sampler has 5 round robin groups. Do you want all of the samplers to play group 1 then 2 then 3, etc. at the same time. Or do you want sampler 1 group 1 followed by sampler 2 group 1, etc. or do you want sampler 1 group1, sampler 1 group 2... etc? :)

        I was thinking:

        Sampler 1, group 1
        Sampler 2, group 1
        Sampler 3, group 1

        Sampler 1, group 2
        Sampler 2, group 2

        And so on :)

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey @tomekslesicki
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          @tomekslesicki I think Christoph's solution should do what you want then.

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          • Christoph HartC
            Christoph Hart
            last edited by Christoph Hart

            Yupp, there you go:

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            The problem when implementing this is that you need to take care of the note offs. I've written a helper "class" that lets you push and pop any kind of value using the event id as hash key so it will also work with overlapping notes.

            EDIT: Fixed the MIDI channel filter settings so that it actually works :)

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              tomekslesicki
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              Awesome, thanks!

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                tomekslesicki
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                Ok, this works great but there's one thing I'd like to implement, and that is MPE. Would it be possible for the three samplers to still support that even with the filter rr script?

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart
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                  Yeah, you're right, this won't work with MPE then, as it needs the channel info from the original event.

                  However I just thought of a much more simple solution: just use the MidiMuter module:

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                  You don't need to take care of the note off events here because that will be handled by the module itself (as long as you enable Fix Stuck Notes).

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                    tomekslesicki
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                    Nice! Now one last thing - what if I want to have 6 samplers playing in each RR cycle?

                    So:

                    RR1: Sampler1, Sampler2, Sampler3,Sampler4,Sampler5,Sampler6
                    RR2: Sampler7,Sampler8,Sampler9,Sampler10,Sampler11,Sampler12
                    RR3: Sampler13,Sampler14,Sampler15,Sampler16,Sampler17,Sampler18

                    I was able to achieve that with the filters and I'm sure it's doable with the logic here but I always sucked at maths ;-)

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                      ustk @tomekslesicki
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                      @tomekslesicki You can put them in 3 containers

                      Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                        tomekslesicki
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                        Nice idea! Can I put the samplers into containers without copy-paste? It changes names of the modulators and I have quite a few of them...

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                          tomekslesicki
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                            tomekslesicki
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                            Ok, I've tried to make this like that:

                            On init:

                            const var muters_a = [    Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter1"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter2"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter3"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter4"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter5"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter6")
                                                 ];
                                                 
                            const var muters_b = [    Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter7"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter8"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter9"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter10"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter11"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter12")
                                                 ];
                                                 
                            const var muters_c = [    Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter13"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter14"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter15"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter16"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter17"),Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter18")
                                                 ];
                            
                            const var muters = [    [muters_a],
                                                    [muters_b],
                                                    [muters_c]
                                               ];
                                                 
                                                 
                            reg rrIndex = 0;
                            

                            And note on:

                            function onNoteOn()
                            {
                                local index = 0;
                                
                            	for(m in muters)
                                {
                                    m.setAttribute(0, rrIndex != index++);
                                }
                                
                                rrIndex++;
                                
                                if(rrIndex == muters.length)
                                rrIndex = 0;
                            }
                             
                            

                            But I'm getting this error:

                            onNoteOn() - Line 7, column 26: Unknown function 'setAttribute' {Q3ljbGVTY3JpcHR8b25Ob3RlT24oKXwxMDN8N3wyNg==}
                            
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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              You're wrapping the muterX arrays into an array again, so it doesn't reach the actual modules.

                              Try

                              const var muters = [    muters_a,
                                                      muters_b,
                                                      muters_c
                                                 ];
                              
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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                Oh and the onNoteOn callback is also wrong. You need a nested for loop (and make sure you don't increment the index in the most inner loop, but in the outer loop so it reflects the actual RR index.

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                                  tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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                                  @Christoph-Hart I think I understood half of this sentence :D

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                                    tomekslesicki
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                                    If you had a bit of time to help me out so this, I'd be really grateful :-)

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                                    • Christoph HartC
                                      Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by Christoph Hart

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                                      Interesting part:

                                      const var muters = [[Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter1"), Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter4")],
                                                          [Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter2"), Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter5")],
                                                          [Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter3"), Synth.getMidiProcessor("MidiMuter6")]]
                                                          
                                      reg rrIndex = 0;    
                                                      
                                      
                                      function onNoteOn()
                                      {
                                          local index = 0;
                                          
                                          for(pair in muters)
                                          {
                                              for(m in pair)
                                              {
                                                  m.setAttribute(0, rrIndex != index);
                                              }
                                              
                                              // Move the incrementation here or it will be incremented 6 times instead of three
                                              index++;
                                          }
                                          
                                          rrIndex++;
                                          
                                          if(rrIndex == muters.length)
                                              rrIndex = 0;
                                      }
                                      

                                      This should be adaptable to your setup without too many hurdles...

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                                        tomekslesicki
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks! It adapted perfectly :-)

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                                            tomekslesicki
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                                            Ok, just a quick follow up - the solution that @Christoph-Hart posted works great most of the time but I’m getting occasional stuck notes. Any way to remedy that?

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