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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
      last edited by Christoph Hart

      Yes, that's basically it. PACE doesn't cost anything to code sign AAX plugins (but you don't get iLok protection). Just signup on Avid, download the SDK, get in touch with PACE for the Eden Tools stuff, buy an iLok, and you're set.

      Procedure was much more tedious in the past, now it got better. It's still bad, but once you've set it up it works.

      EDIT: I wouldn't know whether a pure GPL plugin can be published on AAX since you're basically required to publish anything that was needed to build the product under the GPL license and I am sure that Avid wouldn't like that for their precious AAX thingie :)

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey
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        I'll send Avid an email and report back.

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          • LindonL
            Lindon
            last edited by

            yeah, in short : Nightmare.

            Still I am considering how to go about generally signing my binaries - especially the installers/packagers, to stop all that "unknown developer" stuff on both win 10 and MacOs.

            Has anyone any insights on that?

            As far as I have read I could join the Apple Developer Program, and use my Apple ID on MacOS to sign stuff, and apparently with some jiggery-pokery use it on windows too - but as Apple are not a recognised authority on Windows(yeah go figure..) you may as well use a recognised signing authority. Cheapest I can find is about $65.00 per year.

            Any actual experiences anyone?

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey
              last edited by

              I got a very quick answer from AVID.

              You are welcome to sell your products as AAX plugins independently

              So that's good :)

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              • orangeO
                orange @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey said in Problem compiling with AAX:

                So that's good :)

                Yeah indeed ;)

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  You are welcome to sell your products as AAX plugins independently

                  I don't want to nag around, but that's not how it works. Avid is not in the position to "allow" selling a product based on a GPL codebase, unless they have no problem if the AAX SDK is included in the public repository (and I would be surprised if this is the case).

                  If one part is closed-source, then the entire thing is closed-source, and the only solution to this problem is this:

                  GPL FAQ.

                  So basically, it would require me and the JUCE team to add an exception to the default GPL license.

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by d.healey

                    @Christoph-Hart But what about the VST2 SDK which is also proprietary? I assume AU is too? And ASIO.

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      Yes, this is also a legal grey area, but Steinberg is way less protective about their SDK than Avid (so while the VST SDK was technically non-free, basically everyone could just go to the Steinberg download page and get it).

                      Also, you can't build and run an AAX plugin yourself, the non-developer version of ProTools only accepts code-signed binaries, so the entire GPL idea of being able to modify and use / distribute your modifications is not possible on the AAX platform (again, no problem on VST).

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @Christoph Hart
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                        @Christoph-Hart Yep that all makes sense. Since I don't really want the hassle of making and supporting AAX plugins anyway I'll just let pro-tools users go without. :) If they really want my plugin they can build it themselves and go through all the problems - or Lindon can do it for them (new service for you to offer).

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @d.healey
                          last edited by

                          @d-healey oh pleeeeeease plleeease dont make me do it...

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                          • lalalandsynthL
                            lalalandsynth @Lindon
                            last edited by lalalandsynth

                            @Lindon said in Problem compiling with AAX:

                            Joined the relevant Avid program

                            I have an account at Avid, where can I find this program to sign ?

                            Do I need an Ilok to run the dev version of Protools and do I have to pay for some sort of license ?

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @lalalandsynth
                              last edited by

                              @lalalandsynth you need to go to Pace and tell them your Avid Developer details and ask for the AAX signing tool kit.

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                              • ustkU
                                ustk @Lindon
                                last edited by

                                @Lindon That's what I did last time and Pace replied that if I contact avid, they will do the right thing with Pace and the rest is automatic...
                                I put everything aside since then. But now it is the time to really get it to work :)

                                Can't help pressing F5 in the forum...

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @ustk
                                  last edited by

                                  @ustk well that may be more right that what I know - which is: you will need a set of tools from Pace to "codesign" your AAX plugins...

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