Issue macro taking the priority

[Oli Ullmann]

@ustk
I took a look at the snippet and I don't see a matrix modulator either. Did you recreate the snippet from scratch? Maybe a strange error crept into the project?

I also work with macros and matrix modulators in my plug-in, and it works fine for me.

[ustk]

@Oli-Ullmann Huh ? That’s quite a strange one indeed… yeah the problem being happening in the real project I just have recreated it with this snippet from a blank new project…

[ustk]

@Oli-Ullmann @Orvillain oh wait guys, you have to make the Extra modulation slots to be authorised with the preprocessor flag

HISE_NUM_SCRIPTNODE_FX_MODS=8

[ustk]

@Christoph-Hart In fact it doesn't seem to be related to the modulation target but the isPluginParameter instead. Just disable it, recompile, and the Macro connection is gone

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[Christoph Hart]

@ustk whats the complete list of preprocessors you are using? There‘s a flag to add macro controls as plugin parameters but that obviously interfers with macro modulation.

[ustk]

@Christoph-Hart Thanks, for the snippet project I have nothing but the Extra slots:

[ustk]

@Christoph-Hart Any new on this?

[David Healey]

@ustk said in Issue macro taking the priority:

@Christoph-Hart Any new on this?

Yes, it's broken :)

https://forum.hise.audio/topic/14165/latest-version-of-hise-breaks-existing-presets

[ustk]

@David-Healey Oh I see water ran under the bridge while I was away...
HISE_MACROS_ARE_PLUGIN_PARAMETERS=1 is indeed not helpful here because they're all exposed...

@Oli-Ullmann solution of connecting knobs directly to the modulator doesn't fully work either (and they are inverted, with the table be of no use because the modulator state is "Not assigned")

• I thought about using a constant modulator but, is it still existing? I can't see it...
• Another solution I might explore is a Script Time Variant Modulator

But anyway this needs a proper fix

[Oli Ullmann]

@ustk said in Issue macro taking the priority:

state is "Not assigned"

Do you mean that the mode [“Scale,” “Unipolar,” “Bipolar”] is not initialized when you establish a modulation connection?

To do this, you must first use setMatrixModulationProperties to specify the default mode for the modulation for the corresponding target.

You can use getMatrixModulationProperties to see what form the json object has in order to define the properties. I can also create a snippet for you. :-) Just let me know...

And yes - constants still exist! :-)

[ustk]

@Oli-Ullmann No, I was talking about this:

Making a very simplistic Script Time Variant Modulator works well enough to fake a macro using stock knobs with processorId / parameterId

Oh yeah mad bad, Constant modulators are voice start... not for me since I'm making an FX...

[DanH]

@Oli-Ullmann don't want to hijack this thread but do you have an example of how to use setMatrixModulationProperties to set initial mod values?

[Oli Ullmann]

@DanH
I'm at the gym.
Will make you a snippet when I'm back at my computer.

[DanH]

@Oli-Ullmann Thanks!

[ustk]

@DanH If you trace ModMatrix.getMatrixModulationProperties(); you'll see how the object is built

[DanH]

@ustk Will do - So every knob that you want to modulate you need to set this? And does anyone know which option suits which type of modulation / situation?

[ustk]

@DanH I do not really understand that selector in scriptnode, I set everything to Combined and it seems to work fine for me

https://docs.hise.dev/scriptnode/list/core/extra_mod.html

[DanH]

@ustk said in Issue macro taking the priority:

https://docs.hise.dev/scriptnode/list/core/extra_mod.html

How is the extra_mod node supposed to be used?

[ustk]

@DanH Once you have set a parameter as External Modulation you just have to set the corresponding index to the extra_mod.

You don't need to wire the parameter anymore since it is connected internally with the extra_mod. Then wire the extra_mod like any other modulator node

The indexes are in the same order as the parameters are set
Here the fourth param is idx 3:

[DanH]

@ustk Christ.... Ok so if my parameter called Freq 1 is connected to my Filter Freq node's frequency knob, and I set Freq 1 to External Modulation "combined" (or whatever), then I should now remove the connection, create an extra mod node, set the index accordingly and connect that to the Filter Frequency knob instead?