Hey everyone! :-)

I have a very simple network consisting of a modchain containing a global_mod node connected to an LFO located in the Global Modulator Container.

I’ve compiled this network and loaded it into a HardcodedMasterFX in the FX chain of the main synth chain.

Everything works fine in HISE. However, as soon as I compile the project as an FX plugin and try to load it into my DAW, it crashes immediately.

If I create a container in HISE and load the compiled network into that container, the compiled plugin no longer crashes.

Is there anything specific I need to keep in mind?

I checked the box next to EnableSoundGeneratorsFX.

In the end, it will be an audio network rather than a modulator network. That is why CompileChannelAmount is set to 2. Is that correct?

Thank you very much
Oli

@David-Healey
As always, thanks a lot, David! :-)

@David-Healey
I found the problem. I also set a text using the button and then I move the focus to the label. That's why it doesn't work. Here's a snippet based on yours:

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But with Content.callAfterDelay it is working.

@David-Healey
Okay, it seems to work sometimes and not others. Because now it's not working again.

@David-Healey
Oh, you used if(!value). That works for me too! :-) Was that on purpose, or was it a mistake?

@David-Healey
Maybe it's because the label is in a different panel than the button...
In any case, Content.callAfterDelay was ChatGPT's first suggestion. So I don't know if it's a bug or intended behavior.

@David-Healey
It didn't work. ChatGPT helped me. Here's how it works:

Content.callAfterDelay(30, function()
{
	ScriptLabel.grabFocus();
}, this);

Hi everyone :-)

If I have ScriptLabel.grabFocus() in a button's callback, shouldn't the corresponding label be brought into focus when I press the button, and shouldn't I be able to start typing right away using the keyboard?

Or is there something else I need to do here? Or is the function broken?

Thanks a lot
Oli

@Lindon
I agree with you! I think the bug I mentioned is also a regression.

@DanH
I also remember that the MatrixModulator still does not render continuously when no note is pressed, which means that the modulation in the LAF of the slider only works when a note is played. This problem does not occur if only a matrixTargetId without MatrixModulator is used.

When it comes to modulation, however, I think it is more important to solve the envelope problem that I described in this post: https://forum.hise.audio/topic/14434/envelope-or-filter-trigger-problem
But I think @Christoph-Hart has that on his list.

@ustk I can confirm that the modulation system in effect plug-ins works in principle. I just tested it. It makes sense to me that the MatrixModulator doesn't work, as I think it needs a trigger input from a note, similar to an envelope, which is not the case with an effect plug-in. But that's just a guess and I haven't tested it.

@DanH
I just checked. The function is still there...:

Table.setContentCallback(var contentFunction)

But be careful: this function is only available for a Table, not for a ScriptTable. Maybe that's why you can't see it? To use it, you have to get the actual table, for example from an LFO.

However, the function only fires when adding, deleting, or changing a point. Can't you use a timer for something like a PaintRoutine?

@DanH
That is strange because I used it.
I will have a look when I'm at my computer.

@DanH
There is a table callback.

table.setContentCallback

@ENIGMAONTHETRACK
@HISEnberg was kind enough to implement a reverse delay in Max that you can use via RNBO in HISE. :-)

Follow this link to find the code and everything you need to know about it:
https://forum.hise.audio/topic/11445/free-reverse-delay-built-in-rnbo?_=1761381056172

@Christoph-Hart
Great, thank you very much. Since it concerns fundamental modulation, I think that's an important one.

Hello everyone, hello @Christoph-Hart :-)

I have the following setup:
A synthesizer group with a waveform generator and a filter effect in the effects section of the synthesizer group.

In the grain modulation of the synthesizer group, I have an envelope, and in the frequency modulation of the filter, I also have an envelope with an attack set to 373 MS.

Above a certain release length of the gain envelope, it seems that the filter envelope is no longer triggered when I play notes in quick succession. The filter cutoff is then not turned up slowly but is always played at the maximum value. However, when I look at the filter envelope's own plotter, it looks as if it is being triggered normally. But the signal does not seem to reach the filter.

Am I doing something wrong here? It doesn't matter which envelopes are used. It happens with Simple Envelopes, Flex Envelopes, and even with a Matrix Modulators (the envelopes then come from the Global Modulator Container).

If I'm not doing anything wrong, it's not really possible to publish a plug-in with HISE that has separate envelopes for gain and other effects. But maybe I'm making a mistake or there's a workaround.

It also doesn't matter whether I use HISE's own filter or a filter via a hardcoded effect.

I've created a short video that illustrates the problem (please watch with sound):
https://youtu.be/Kk3mpRisnc0?si=eFrhfld-LeROpwf0

Here is a minimal snippet that illustrates the problem:

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All the best
Oli

PS. It shouldn't be the reason, but I think I'm using commit c49bcf3 from January 21. Unfortunately, HISE doesn't show me any commits, but I'm pretty sure I'm using this commit.

@DanH
Ha ha Good question!

I'm building a fairly extensive synth plug-in. It has 4 layers, each with 4 sound engines. Each layer has 4 insert and 4 send effects, a master effects section, 4 arpeggiators, and a main page.
Since I'm using the new HISE modulation system, each parameter really needs its own UI element, which is why there are so many.

@DanH
All right, I understand. My project has 2415 components. With this number, it still seems to work.

@DanH
Oh, ok. That hasn't happened to me yet. I'll test it thoroughly again. Thank you.