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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      Over the time I've got so many request of modifying the existing arpeggiator that I think it's a better approach to just rewrite the logic in a new module and then let the people customize as you wish, so here we go:

      In the snippet browser you can now find a snippet with a new arpeggiator that should be a much better starting point. It includes the latest and greatest coding practices - using a FixObjectFactory and relying on their native sortability for almost C++ like performance and the grid callback of the transport handler which allows you to lock the arpeggiator timing to the DAW clock instead of relying on the note timing.

      I opened this forum topic for any discussion around the snippet (as I think that might be a good channel of communication that I'll be using for the more complex snippet examples going forward) so post any feedback about the snippet in here (I'll post a link to this topic in the snippet description in the browser).

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      • CyberGenC
        CyberGen @Christoph Hart
        last edited by CyberGen

        @Christoph-Hart Hi, I'm trying to add this to my project, I have a few questions:

        Regarding the octave range, is it possible to make it go negative (down octaves)? I could do this in the old arp. I tried changing the min and max range, but it didn't work.
        Another thing I noticed: when the octave range is set to 2, the arp adds one octave, and when set to 3, it adds two octaves, and so on. Shouldn't it be 0-based? If set to 1, the arp should add one octave to the held notes, so when it's set to 0, it plays only the notes being held.

        I'd like to show the notes being played by the arp in the UI. Is it possible to get the note numbers that the arp is outputting? If so, how?

        I'd love to be able to add glide to the arp. What is the best way to have this arp work nicely with the mono/glide script from the snippet browser? Perhaps there is a way to combine the two scripts to use a single object factory?

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        • CyberGenC
          CyberGen @CyberGen
          last edited by CyberGen

          @CyberGen said in Browsable Snippet: [Clocksynced Arpeggiator]:

          I'd like to show the notes being played by the arp in the UI. Is it possible to get the note numbers that the arp is outputting? If so, how?

          One answer:
          Insert this into the snippet.

          //Add note Note Names
          const var noteNames = ["C", "C#", "D", "D#", "E", "F", "F#", "G", "G#", "A", "A#", "B"];
          
          //Add labels to display name and number
          const var noteNumberView = Content.addLabel("noteNumberView", 550, 0);
          const var noteNameView = Content.addLabel("noteNameView", 650, 0);
          
          
          //! LOGIC FUNCTIONS 
          // ==========================================================================
          
          // Just a small helper function that plays a note with a defined length
          inline function playNote(noteNumber, velocity, timestamp, length)
          {
          	local newId = Synth.addNoteOn(1, Math.range(noteNumber, 0, 126), velocity, timestamp);
          	local noteName = noteNames[noteNumber % 12];//ADD
          	local octave = Engine.doubleToString((Math.floor(noteNumber / 12) - 1), 0.0);//ADD
          	
          	// Send note number and name to display
          	noteNumberView.set("text", noteNumber);//ADD
          	noteNameView.set("text", (noteName + octave));//ADD
          	
          	Synth.noteOffDelayedByEventId(newId, timestamp + length);
          	
          	return newId;
          }
          }
          
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          • M_HollowayM
            M_Holloway @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart I have a project that currently uses three samplers, each with its own arp. I stumbled across this yesterday and was initially excited because of the improved sync but then spotted this:

            // The only real limitation of this approach is that it doesn't allow multiple arpeggiators to run
            // simultaneously (because there's only one grid callback) but that is a rather exotic use case
            

            As an experiment, I made a project with three waveform generators and added a script processor to each to run this code in and, following a bit of tweaking, observed that everything could be set individually with the exception of the Tempo value. Tempo value was global and reflected whichever of the three Tempo controls was last moved.

            Is the reason you can only have one Tempo value because you can only have one transport handler? Is there any possible way to enable all parameters to be set on a per instance basis?

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            • CyberGenC
              CyberGen @CyberGen
              last edited by CyberGen

              @CyberGen said in Browsable Snippet: [Clocksynced Arpeggiator]:

              Found one solution to this question:

              Regarding the octave range, is it possible to make it go negative?

              • First, customize the min, max and middlePosition for the octave knob properties:
               // The number of octaves. This will create octaved copies of the currently held notes
               const var numOctaves = Content.addKnob("Octaves", X_OFFSET + 0, Y_OFFSET + 60);
               numOctaves.set("min", -4);
               numOctaves.set("max", 4);
               numOctaves.set("middlePosition", 0);
               numOctaves.set("stepSize", 1);
              
              • Then make changes to the rebuildSortedList function to:
                Calculate absolute value of the octave range knob.
                Add if statement to discern upwards from downwards transposition.
               
               inline function rebuildSortedList()
               {
               	// Clear the sorted list
               	sortedList.clearQuick();
               
               	// Sort the notes before stacking them up in the octaves
               	activeNotes.sort();
               
               	// for each octave, insert the sorted list into the note array
               	for(i = 0 ; i < Math.abs(numOctaves.getValue()) + 1; i++)
               	{	
              		for(s in activeNotes)
               		{
               			// Copy all relevant properties (currently we don't)
               			// use the velocity property at all, but that can be
               			// used for further customization
               			if (numOctaves.getValue() >= 0) scratch.noteNumber = s.noteNumber + i * 12;
               			else scratch.noteNumber = s.noteNumber + i * -12;
               			scratch.id = s.id;
               			scratch.velocity = s.velocity;
               			sortedList.insert(scratch);
               		}
              	}
               };
              
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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @M_Holloway
                last edited by

                @M_Holloway said in Browsable Snippet: [Clocksynced Arpeggiator]:

                Is the reason you can only have one Tempo value because you can only have one transport handler? Is there any possible way to enable all parameters to be set on a per instance basis?

                I think you can have several arps running in different tempos with Christophs "Clocksynced Arpeggiator" if you have them set per/voice source.
                I haven't tried this but I managed to do it in this experiment where I built an arp using the Transport Handlers setEnableGrid() function

                Take a look in the snippet and maybe you can find a way to do it in your project
                Remember this is only a test and I know nothing about the performance or any complications that can come from it, but so far so good.

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                • M_HollowayM
                  M_Holloway @ulrik
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                  @ulrik Thanks for this, definitely a pointer in the right direction. I'll have a proper play around with it tomorrow :)

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                  • OrvillainO
                    Orvillain
                    last edited by

                    Heya!

                    I modified the clocksynced arpeggiator example slightly for my own needs.

                    But I am wondering - what advantage does it have over just using the Arpeggiator midi processor???

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Orvillain
                      last edited by

                      @Orvillain I couldn't get this working nicely - the sliderpacks would never recall the settings properly. Does it work ok your end?

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                      • OrvillainO
                        Orvillain @DanH
                        last edited by

                        @DanH said in Browsable Snippet: [Clocksynced Arpeggiator]:

                        @Orvillain I couldn't get this working nicely - the sliderpacks would never recall the settings properly. Does it work ok your end?

                        I'm not using slider packs. I'm using custom drawn script panels, and I save the step data into the panel value field for preset store/recall.

                        I don't really like slider packs, and I try to avoid them at all costs. Coz they're ugly and mean.

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                        • DanHD
                          DanH @Orvillain
                          last edited by

                          @Orvillain Yes I agree.

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                          • HISEnbergH
                            HISEnberg @Orvillain
                            last edited by

                            @Orvillain Indeed, as far as UI components go the sliderpack is a bit of an ugly duck. It's much nicer with the new CSS facelift:

                            https://docs.hise.dev/ui-components/plugin-components/sliderpack.html

                            Just curious do you have an example of a using a panel to control an arpeggiator?

                            Sonic Architect && Software Mercenary

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                            • OrvillainO
                              Orvillain @HISEnberg
                              last edited by

                              @HISEnberg said in Browsable Snippet: [Clocksynced Arpeggiator]:

                              Just curious do you have an example of a using a panel to control an arpeggiator?

                              I'll have to put one together, because the one I have is the clients.

                              But basically I did a piano roll kind of interface, where I can specify pitch and length, in a grid. Then an extra velocity lane below. I draw a grid according to the steps count, centre lane across the middle, +12 and -12 range below. So it's a load of squares in a grid. Each cell can be clicked on and off, and when you click it off, you can drag the right-most edge to change the size of the note.

                              It's all pretty straight forward graphics context drawing to be honest; tied in with Christoph's arp snippet.

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