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    • d.healeyD
      d.healey @tomekslesicki
      last edited by

      @tomekslesicki So this won't work?

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      • ulrikU
        ulrik @d.healey
        last edited by ulrik

        @d-healey that's not working, try and add a Waveform generator, you'll not get the signal into to effect container, or is there a way to set it up? I have tried but not succeed

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        • d.healeyD
          d.healey @ulrik
          last edited by

          @ulrik said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

          try and add a Waveform generator

          But does it work as an effect plugin which is what the OP wants?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @ulrik
            last edited by d.healey

            @ulrik Works here with a waveform gen

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            • ulrikU
              ulrik @d.healey
              last edited by

              @d-healey Oh, I'm so sorry, I was actually right now trying to get it to work in my own project, which is a synth, sorry! 😬

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              • ulrikU
                ulrik @d.healey
                last edited by

                @d-healey Yes it is !!! I must have gone out to lunch :) with my project, thank you David!

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                  tomekslesicki @d.healey
                  last edited by

                  @d-healey Wait, so for FX plugins, I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @tomekslesicki
                    last edited by

                    @tomekslesicki said in Global modulators on FX plugins - how?:

                    I don't have to put the effects in the master chain? It can be in a regular container?

                    Try it and tell me, I haven't made an fx plugin for a couple of years so can't remember.

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                      tomekslesicki @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey nope, it needs to be on the master

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                      • d.healeyD
                        d.healey @tomekslesicki
                        last edited by

                        @tomekslesicki In that case there seems to be no point in global modulators being available in FX plugins at all, or am I missing something?

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                          tomekslesicki @d.healey
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                          @d-healey Yeah, it seems like @Christoph-Hart added it as requested but it doesn't bring anything to the table if you can't use the modulators :D

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
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                            @tomekslesicki I‘m pretty sure you can use them in an FX plugin (but I have no idea why they don‘t show up in the drop down, might have slipped in at some point).

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                              tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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                              @christoph-hart I bet they work but you're right, I can't select them from the drop down so I can't check that ;-)

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
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                                @tomekslesicki Yes, I tried to fake it by creating the mod connection in a child sound generator. If you then paste it to the master chain FX, it works, but the next time you load the patch the connection is gone. It's like as if HISE doesn't like cheating :)

                                I'll take a look now, I'm sure it's a trivial fix - not unlike our eternal friend, the cubase offline export :)

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                                • Christoph HartC
                                  Christoph Hart @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by Christoph Hart

                                  Alright, please pull, recompile and try now with this snippet:

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                                    tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
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                                    @christoph-hart I just tried it and it works perfectly in HISE (thank you!) but not on a compiled plugin.

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                                      tomekslesicki @tomekslesicki
                                      last edited by

                                      bump bump

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                                        tomekslesicki @tomekslesicki
                                        last edited by

                                        @Christoph-Hart - in case you missed it among new posts

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                                        • Christoph HartC
                                          Christoph Hart @tomekslesicki
                                          last edited by

                                          @tomekslesicki Should work now.

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                                            tomekslesicki @Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by

                                            @Christoph-Hart hey Christoph, so I just had a chance to test it and still, it works great in HISE but doesn't on exported plugins. Could you please take another look at this? I'm on the latest Develop build.

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