How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days

[Dan Korneff]

@Christoph-Hart said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

have you noticed a dip in your sales when the cracked releases came out?

I saw a drop of about 80-90% after R2R cracked my plugs. Sales went back up when I released v1.1 updates... and then dropped again when those got cracked. It appears that a sizeable number of people in the audio community would use stolen software if given the opportunity.
I can't "cast the first stone" as they say. As a teenager, my audio computer was a cesspool of questionably obtained software.
@Christoph-Hart as you know, I'm implementing a new protection system soon. Once R2R figured out how to block the iLok licenses, it was pretty much a copy/paste procedure to hack anyone using iLok... bummer. But moving away from such a widely used platform would hopefully make it more annoying for the hackers.
At the end of the day, just about any software can be cracked. My goal with copy protection is to hold them off long enough to make a return on my investment, and then release an update that will restart the product cycle.

[Natan]

@DabDab Don't Mind The Small One, shoot In The Head of Warez Website, AUDIOZ.

Other ones are Just Assholes.
I explained On My Above Post

[Dan Korneff]

There are some services that monitor warez websites and remove content for you.
https://tracksaur.com/
https://link-busters.com/
Been thinking about giving this a go

[Natan]

@dustbro said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

@Christoph-Hart said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

have you noticed a dip in your sales when the cracked releases came out?

I saw a drop of about 80-90% after R2R cracked my plugs. Sales went back up when I released v1.1 updates...

And You still See The Drop Right?
Because your Products are live On Audioz!!!
Never Sit back and Watch Your Sale Going Down.

And keep that in Mind.
Some of users Do Both Buying/Pirating.

Some of Them First visit the Warez Website, And have The chance to Try your product for free, and Once they get their Hands on your Product, They never come back to Your website.

You Did A Great Job Man, But Letting your Awesome plugins Live On Warez Websites Doesn't Sounds Pro.

Send an Email, And Ask For Post Removal.

[Dan Korneff]

@Natan said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

Send an Email, And Ask For Post Removal.

I do this already. You're at the mercy of their willingness to comply.

[Natan]

@dustbro Make an Account On Audioz
And Send A Pm To Dude Called Pirat.

He is Fast On Dmca

[DabDab]

@Natan . I have one question. If it is shorted so easily then why big companies Like Izotope, Omnisphere, Native Instruments etc (just name of phew) are being pirated?
Why their products are still on every pirated sites? It doesn't make a sale drop or they just do not care ?

[Natan]

@DabDab
But Antares, Xfer records and Other ones Do Send Dmca Emails.

The reason Other ones Don't, Is Because They Are always welcome With Free promotion,
You see Lots of ableton Live Tutorials on YouTube.
I bet 80% off videos Are made on A NonLegit Version of ALive.

This Easily Makes Free Ads, And Fee Promotion,
For example:

Cubase 5 Was one of The Biggest & Best Daw's Once Hacked By A Team Called TeamAiR.

The whole Industry Switched To cubase 5, and After they Changed to Dongles, Their Popularity Dropped, and Producers Switched to The Ableton.

And Now you see Ableton Rules The Industry, Although Cubase Is Bigger and Better.

This is A Perspective Of How to Drive your Business,
Izotope Wasn't That Famous, Until They Let Their Plugins Be available to All Music Community.
So they Decide to Continue On same Road That Ableton stepped on

[DabDab]

@dustbro I guess this services are not free. If by @Natan method dosn't work this will be the next step.

Oh. one more thing. Link busters has listed i-zotope
Funny thing is....
I-zotope is the plugin which gets Cracked almost Instantly and lives in every Pirated torrent sites.

[DabDab]

@Natan yeah.. you have a point. (y)

[Natan]

@DabDab said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

@dustbro I guess this services are not free. If by @Natan method dosn't work this will be the next step.

Oh. one more thing. Link busters has listed i-zotope
Funny thing is....
I-zotope is the plugin which gets Cracked almost Instantly and lives in every Pirated torrent sites.

These are scams.
They Can't Do This, And they Dont have The right to Send Emails Because This is Not Their Products.

So Websites Don't Take Them Seriously.

[DabDab]

@Natan Your Posts are very informative.

[Dan Korneff]

@Natan said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

So Websites Don't Take Them Seriously.

It's really funny to me where Audioz decides to uphold the law :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

Random dude from Russia: "I would like to post a link to this hacked software to your site."
Audioz: "No prob! Thank you so much."

Anti-Piracy Service Company: "We would like you to remove links to our clients copy-written material"
Audioz:"Wait just a second there... you need a court ordered document first."

Please note that we do not respond to so called "Anti-Piracy Service Companies", unless you can provide us with proof in the form of a document confirmed by a court that you are an official representative of the company you're sending DMCA notices for.
Otherwise, we only respond to take-down notices sent by the developers themselves, preferably from an e-mail on their own domain.

[d.healey]

@DabDab said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

why big companies Like Izotope, Omnisphere, Native Instruments etc (just name of phew) are being pirated

I think the success of a company is proportional to the warez releases of that company's software. So to be successful you must be pirated a lot :p

[Natan]

@d-healey said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

@DabDab said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

why big companies Like Izotope, Omnisphere, Native Instruments etc (just name of phew) are being pirated

I think the success of a company is proportional to the warez releases of that company's software. So to be successful you must be pirated a lot :p

It works Like "Sextape Of a X Celebrity"
(KimK, Paris Hilton, jennifer lawrence)

It brings more attention and Google Scores at the end Of The day

[Lindon]

@Natan

sent an email as you suggested -- got this back;

Your message couldn't be delivered to discontent@audioz.se. Their inbox is full or it's receiving too much mail at the moment.

[Natan]

@Lindon
Mate,
Make an Account with your official Email On Audioz.
And Pm Pirat.

With the Tilte "CR Post Removal"
And A Polite Body + All Links To the posts.

And A Signature of Your Webiste.
This Always Works For Me

[Natan]

@Lindon @dustbro @orange @hisefilo @d-healey
Here is my Inbox On Audioz.
All Replied Within a Day, And All Post Removed

[DabDab]

I have few questions to @Natan. According to the concept

• First Team R2R , VR gets Demo or licensed from Real person. That means when a user purchases a product from website, does he/she sell to R2R or VR, Moria etc. ?

• What is the point? I mean If I purchase a product originally lets assume (Piano) why should I sell to Crackers?

• If we can encounter a user and a sudden huge sell by one person there might be a chance to get pirated. We can stop selling to him and stop from being pirated.

• If you see @Lindon pirated products, all available as Full Bundle.

• Sell Bundle products are bit risky ?

• For Sample based products Plugins and Samples (hr1) should be separated and hosted separately.

• Do the Moria,R2R,VR etc steal original products from website by phising?

• Can they steal Wordpress Digital Selling Plugins (Woocommerce) download link?

I am bit concerned since I am planning to sell my Music productions tutorials digitally.
For plugins manufacturers there is always a hope because if it gets pirated they can upgrade to the next version. But for video content creators it will be a total disaster.

[d.healey]

@DabDab said in How to make Trial Plugins for 10 days:

Plugins and Samples (hr1) should be separated or should be in same archive?

hr1 is an archive, so separate.