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    • Robert PuzaR
      Robert Puza @d.healey
      last edited by Robert Puza

      @d-healey Yes. I understand you. And by creating more sample maps I could change this constellation. (1 - 42, dynamic 2 to 43 - 84, and dynamic 3 to 85-127)

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Robert Puza
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        @Robert-Puza said in What is velocity?:

        (1 - 42, dynamic 2 to 43 - 84, and dynamic 3 to 85-127)

        That was just a suggesting as it provides equal range for each layer, but you can skew it to a different range if you prefer. You can also remap the velocity dynamically using a script.

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        • Robert PuzaR
          Robert Puza @d.healey
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          @d-healey 👍

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          • Robert PuzaR
            Robert Puza @d.healey
            last edited by Robert Puza

            @d-healey For a user of a Hise based virtual musical instrument, the ability to set the velocity, which is replaceable by the velocity setting in the midi keyboard (usually 3 curves), is MORE IMPORTANT than having the ability to set the velocity modulator.

            That's true 🙏

            and for example 3 samplemaps can solve this. I hope it will be easy to switch on the interface 😁

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @Robert Puza
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              @Robert-Puza Why not add a velocity curve editor to your UI, it's very simple to make.

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              • Robert PuzaR
                Robert Puza @d.healey
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                @d-healey I like it. but Can I set it to trigger a sample from the loudest velocity layer with a soft hit?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @Robert Puza
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                  @Robert-Puza The X axis is input velocity, the Y axis is output velocity. So the curve you set controls the output and gives you complete control over the whole velocity range.

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                  • Robert PuzaR
                    Robert Puza @d.healey
                    last edited by Robert Puza

                    @d-healey and which processor id do you assign to it? velocity modulator1?

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                    • d.healeyD
                      d.healey @Robert Puza
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                      @Robert-Puza There is no built in processor for this. You need to write a script that takes the incoming velocity and uses the table to send out the modified velocity.

                      However if you're releasing this project as GPL you can use the one I have already written (I should probably relicense this anyway as CC0 since it's such a simple script) - https://codeberg.org/LibreWave/RhapsodyBoilerplate/src/branch/main/modules/VelocityScaler.js

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                      • Robert PuzaR
                        Robert Puza @d.healey
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                        @d-healey
                        This looks great 🌞
                        Thank you 🙏

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                        • LindonL
                          Lindon @d.healey
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                          @d-healey said in What is velocity?:

                          @Robert-Puza There is no built in processor for this. You need to write a script that takes the incoming velocity and uses the table to send out the modified velocity.

                          isnt this the inbuilt processor he's looking for - or am I missing the point here?

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @Lindon
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                            @Lindon that uses velocity to control the parameter you've assigned it to, in this case volume. It doesn't change the actual velocity value entering the sampler.

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                              Lindon @d.healey
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                              @d-healey gotcha

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                              • Robert PuzaR
                                Robert Puza @Lindon
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                                @Lindon Velocity modulator is a very useful tool.
                                But is "only" volume.
                                The setting option that David wrote in his script is the most important. (Velocity input setting )

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @Robert Puza
                                  last edited by Lindon

                                  @Robert-Puza said in What is velocity?:

                                  @Lindon Velocity modulator is a very useful tool.
                                  But is "only" volume.
                                  The setting option that David wrote in his script is the most important. (Velocity input setting )

                                  yes, but no.... create a global modulator for velocity like this:
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                                  and apply it anywhere you can apply a GM...

                                  Here it is being applied to an envelope attack:

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                                  • Robert PuzaR
                                    Robert Puza @Lindon
                                    last edited by Robert Puza

                                    @Lindon aha. I'll look into it. thank you.

                                    If your tip allows you to set the dynamics so that the loudest sample (velocity layer) can be played with even a light touch on the keyboard, then you are right.

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                                    • Robert PuzaR
                                      Robert Puza @Lindon
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                                      @Lindon Just to clarify: MIDI keyboards have mechanical differences. If the user uses a different MIDI keyboard than me: will he be able to play a sample from velocity layer 1? Or will his softest hit only trigger samples from higher velocity layers?

                                      Will his strong hit on the MIDI keyboard be enough to trigger a sample from a loud velocity layer?

                                      That's why we need the setting that David wrote in his script

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @Lindon
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                                        @Lindon This still doesn't change the velocity entering the sampler, so won't do what OP wants.

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                                        • Robert PuzaR
                                          Robert Puza @d.healey
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                                          @d-healey David, what does OP mean?

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                                            d.healey @Robert Puza
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                                            @Robert-Puza Original Poster (the person who started the thread). Depending on context it can also mean Original Post (the first post of the thread).

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