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    • Robert PuzaR
      Robert Puza @d.healey
      last edited by

      @d-healey I like it. but Can I set it to trigger a sample from the loudest velocity layer with a soft hit?

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      • d.healeyD
        d.healey @Robert Puza
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        @Robert-Puza The X axis is input velocity, the Y axis is output velocity. So the curve you set controls the output and gives you complete control over the whole velocity range.

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        • Robert PuzaR
          Robert Puza @d.healey
          last edited by Robert Puza

          @d-healey and which processor id do you assign to it? velocity modulator1?

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          • d.healeyD
            d.healey @Robert Puza
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            @Robert-Puza There is no built in processor for this. You need to write a script that takes the incoming velocity and uses the table to send out the modified velocity.

            However if you're releasing this project as GPL you can use the one I have already written (I should probably relicense this anyway as CC0 since it's such a simple script) - https://codeberg.org/LibreWave/RhapsodyBoilerplate/src/branch/main/modules/VelocityScaler.js

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            • Robert PuzaR
              Robert Puza @d.healey
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              @d-healey
              This looks great 🌞
              Thank you 🙏

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              • LindonL
                Lindon @d.healey
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                @d-healey said in What is velocity?:

                @Robert-Puza There is no built in processor for this. You need to write a script that takes the incoming velocity and uses the table to send out the modified velocity.

                isnt this the inbuilt processor he's looking for - or am I missing the point here?

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @Lindon
                  last edited by

                  @Lindon that uses velocity to control the parameter you've assigned it to, in this case volume. It doesn't change the actual velocity value entering the sampler.

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                  • LindonL
                    Lindon @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey gotcha

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                    • Robert PuzaR
                      Robert Puza @Lindon
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                      @Lindon Velocity modulator is a very useful tool.
                      But is "only" volume.
                      The setting option that David wrote in his script is the most important. (Velocity input setting )

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @Robert Puza
                        last edited by Lindon

                        @Robert-Puza said in What is velocity?:

                        @Lindon Velocity modulator is a very useful tool.
                        But is "only" volume.
                        The setting option that David wrote in his script is the most important. (Velocity input setting )

                        yes, but no.... create a global modulator for velocity like this:
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                        and apply it anywhere you can apply a GM...

                        Here it is being applied to an envelope attack:

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                        • Robert PuzaR
                          Robert Puza @Lindon
                          last edited by Robert Puza

                          @Lindon aha. I'll look into it. thank you.

                          If your tip allows you to set the dynamics so that the loudest sample (velocity layer) can be played with even a light touch on the keyboard, then you are right.

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                          • Robert PuzaR
                            Robert Puza @Lindon
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                            @Lindon Just to clarify: MIDI keyboards have mechanical differences. If the user uses a different MIDI keyboard than me: will he be able to play a sample from velocity layer 1? Or will his softest hit only trigger samples from higher velocity layers?

                            Will his strong hit on the MIDI keyboard be enough to trigger a sample from a loud velocity layer?

                            That's why we need the setting that David wrote in his script

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Lindon
                              last edited by

                              @Lindon This still doesn't change the velocity entering the sampler, so won't do what OP wants.

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                              • Robert PuzaR
                                Robert Puza @d.healey
                                last edited by

                                @d-healey David, what does OP mean?

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                                • d.healeyD
                                  d.healey @Robert Puza
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                                  @Robert-Puza Original Poster (the person who started the thread). Depending on context it can also mean Original Post (the first post of the thread).

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                                  • Robert PuzaR
                                    Robert Puza @d.healey
                                    last edited by Robert Puza

                                    @d-healey Ok.. 😁 I understand now. I am the OP.

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                                    • Dominik MayerD
                                      Dominik Mayer
                                      last edited by Dominik Mayer

                                      @Robert-Puza @d-healey

                                      Guess, thats what you want, right?

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                                      Takes both,, the global modulator approach and applies d.healeys script it in the Master Midi,, combined with the Table Selector from the example snippets to quickly select different scalers.

                                      PS: To make the tables consistent probably sth like "Saving custom LFO shapes" from the snippet browser..

                                      PPS: Edited Snippet with global var fix.

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                                      • Robert PuzaR
                                        Robert Puza @Dominik Mayer
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                                        @Dominik-Mayer That sounds great. I'll check it out. Thanks.

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Dominik Mayer
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                                          @Dominik-Mayer I recommend not putting the MIDI handling in the UI script though.

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                                          • LindonL
                                            Lindon @d.healey
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                                            @d-healey said in What is velocity?:

                                            @Lindon This still doesn't change the velocity entering the sampler, so won't do what OP wants.

                                            Yes, just saying it can be used elsewhere - feel free to ignore me.

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