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    • staiffS
      staiff
      last edited by

      Ok, HISE standalone compiled from the Projucer done.

      But in the Hise settings/development I have this (:D)

      0_1543164617624_Capture d’écran 2018-11-25 à 08.49.29.png

      seems HISE don't want to compile with Xcode. arf !
      maybe something wrong somewhere.

      Excuse me i'm French.

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      • ?
        A Former User @staiff
        last edited by

        @staiff Think you're all good there. Just try compiling something from the export menu, it just runs through terminal. I think...

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        • staiffS
          staiff
          last edited by staiff

          tried to compile the "basic synth" example = failed

          tried to compile a simple "something" I quickly done:
          0_1543166720077_Capture d’écran 2018-11-25 à 09.24.14.png

          (standalone) = works !
          will try vst for testing it in GB ;)

          So the settings always says "visual studio 2017" instead of "Xcode", but it works; so NO MATTER :D !

          Excuse me i'm French.

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          • Dan KorneffD
            Dan Korneff @staiff
            last edited by

            @staiff install xcode 8 from the App Store. Then you can compile the plugin outside of HISE and see if that works. The Xcode project should be located inside of your Binaries folder within your project.

            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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            • staiffS
              staiff
              last edited by staiff

              maybe a start of answer,
              I found my standalone in compiled folder, but ,vst and ,AU are not here,

              just "links" inside builds/macosx/build/release/

              0_1543169694306_Capture d’écran 2018-11-25 à 10.14.41.png

              maybe done wrong :(

              EDIT: ok. Found. it seems that compiled file goes directly in user/library/etc. ... but in my case this user/library is not the default library, so I must replace the ,vet and ,component in the good place after that,

              Garage band read only AU file ? no .vst ? (if no, I must find a vst reader for MAC)

              Excuse me i'm French.

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              • Dan KorneffD
                Dan Korneff @staiff
                last edited by

                @staiff your compiled plugins exist in a different folder. There is a thread that @d-healey stated that details the export process for mac and PC. You might find the answer there.

                Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                • Dan KorneffD
                  Dan Korneff @staiff
                  last edited by

                  @staiff garage band is only au. You can download Reaper for free. That will load your vst plugs

                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                  • staiffS
                    staiff
                    last edited by staiff

                    yep !
                    i edited the previous post when you answered ;)

                    if I understand well it's a Xcode 10 behaviour ?
                    xcode 8 as similar behaviour than VS (put compiled plugins in "compiled" project folder ?)

                    aaaaaaaaaarg ! of course reaper ! why I didn't think about it before !!!!!

                    Excuse me i'm French.

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                    • hisefiloH
                      hisefilo @staiff
                      last edited by

                      @staiff in my case plug-in are placed on where all of my plug-ins are. Not in my computer now but think is Application Support/Audio/VST and Components for UI
                      XCode 8 as compiler.

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        Wow, so many misunderstandings in one post - it's a new record for you staiff :)

                        1. Visual Studio on macOS has nothing to do with Visual Studio on Windows. It's just a rebranded version of another IDE called Xenomai, which is admittedly highly confusing. There's no way around XCode on macOS currently (there is another IDE called CLion which might get supported in the future, but even then for compiling iOS apps you need XCode).

                        2. You don't need anything to compile AU plugins, the SDK is included in macOS by default.

                        3. There is no "better" plugin format (actually there is, but it's completely beside the point). You will need to provide both VST and AU in order to support all available hosts. Once Ableton jumps to VST3 support I might change this too (actually you're not allowed anymore to distribute VST2 plugins without a license agreement with Steinberg)

                        4. If you want to compile on macOS 10.14, you have to disable the 32bit builds in the Projucer projects - this is not the default because some people still need it, but I will change that as soon as you can deprecate 32bit safely altogether (and I am looking forward to this because the sample streaming really benefits from 64bit).

                        maybe it's a good idea to create a Dev environment setup quick list or something for win and mac. In fact I don't remember what's exactly needed to setup a PC or a Mac. Need to dive in forum for long time to find all of the information.
                        Not just hise and vst sdks but xpretty, xcode versions, vs versions, win sdks, ipp urls, etc

                        This is basically already there, but it needs a bit polishing and updating. If you want, you can edit it here and open a pull request.

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                        • staiffS
                          staiff @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by staiff

                          @christoph-hart :

                          "Visual Studio on macOS has nothing to do with Visual Studio on Windows. It's just a rebranded version of another IDE called Xenomai, which is admittedly highly confusing."
                          I'm stupid, but not enough to confuse the two. in the projucer project, VS2017 only appears in a "windows" section. It is confusing; and anyway I have not managed to compile hise with VS, but with Xcode.
                          in hise, all projects has only VS2017 available to compile, no Xcode. But when i compile plugin and standalone it works, even if i don't know if it's VS4Mac or xcode working, but it's working and it's the essential.

                          "You don't need anything to compile AU plugins, the SDK is included in macOS by default."
                          discovered it. Not the same thing on Win.
                          what is the "lib .a" file created with the component ?

                          "There is no "better" plugin format (actually there is, but it's completely beside the point). You will need to provide both VST and AU in order to support all available hosts. "
                          Yes. as i created plugins to just test Mac and not distribute it, i compiled both and tested in reaper (that loads both).

                          "If you want to compile on macOS 10.14, you have to disable the 32bit builds in the Projucer projects."
                          yep, Dustbro mentionned this above.

                          the sample library (.hr1) is the same for both win and mac ? if i already made it on Win, i've just to compile the plugin, no need to create the installer again ? (sure the answer is yes).
                          The reason for all this is not to create public Mac plugins, but just that I may be working in a new web development company that only works on Mac. and I only work on PC.
                          so I acquired Mac Friday, studied OSX on Saturday morning, and installed HISE / xcode / VS for mac / etc. Sunday to train on Mac (and eventually show them the plugins compiled to show what I can do on Mac)

                          I know, web development has nothing to do with VST. :)

                          Excuse me i'm French.

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                          • ossian1961O
                            ossian1961
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                            @staiff from the way you answered you look a little upset with Christoph. Maybe you do not know it... Christoph is the guy who created HISE. If you are new to MAC, you need a bit more patience and follow the Christoph advice to search informations in the forums ;)

                            https://www.kontakthub.com/label/Imagik-Sound/
                            https://mirtklaar.bandcamp.com/

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                            • Christoph HartC
                              Christoph Hart
                              last edited by Christoph Hart

                              No offense taken, and @staiff knows who I am - I think we all remember his marriage proposal a few weeks ago :)

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                              • staiffS
                                staiff @ossian1961
                                last edited by staiff

                                @ossian1961
                                I already found everything I wanted. but thanks anyway for the advice.
                                Only you may not have read my signature: I am French. You know, this people who, when they are not happy, put on a yellow vest and demolish secular buildings that have made history and the reputation of their country. The Frenchman wants everything immediately, by paying less than the normal price, and demolishes everything - by provoking more expensive damage than demand.

                                For hise it's the same. I ask questions about hise / Mac, but I already want HISE 3.0 free, before everyone else. :D

                                Uh ... In case you did not understand, I'm joking, it's an ironic message ... So Frenchy ... ;)

                                And if you don't laugh by this message i come at your home with my yellow vest and detroy everything :D :D :D

                                (in fact what's happening here is not funny. I'm really just ashamed to be French today :( ...)

                                @Christoph-Hart:
                                did you change something on the forum ?
                                Seems to be impossible to create new thread.

                                Excuse me i'm French.

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                                • ossian1961O
                                  ossian1961 @Christoph Hart
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                                  @christoph-hart I know, I was kidding because I found funny the way he replied ;)

                                  https://www.kontakthub.com/label/Imagik-Sound/
                                  https://mirtklaar.bandcamp.com/

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                                  • staiffS
                                    staiff
                                    last edited by

                                    But he was right. i'm the master of misunderstanding. if you say "red" i understand "yellow" but i insist to shout you said "blue" :D :D :D

                                    Excuse me i'm French.

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                                    • Christoph HartC
                                      Christoph Hart
                                      last edited by Christoph Hart

                                      Seems to be impossible to create new thread.

                                      No but another user also reported that. I tried creating a topic yesterday, it worked. You need to specify a category though and it might be possible that some CSS fucks up the appearance of that selector. I'll make a blank topic with my superpowers and you can ask your question there :)

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                                      • Dominik MayerD
                                        Dominik Mayer
                                        last edited by

                                        confirmed.. creating new topics is not possible anymore for users, and there are also a few updates pending.. (youtube embed etc..). I'll update the forum tomorrow.

                                        expect a bit downtime in the morning :) (UTC+1)

                                        best,
                                        d

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @Dominik Mayer
                                          last edited by

                                          @dominik-mayer Do I have super powers? https://forum.hise.audio/topic/1085/this-is-a-new-topic

                                          Libre Wave - Freedom respecting instruments and effects
                                          My Patreon - HISE tutorials
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                                          • NatanN
                                            Natan @staiff
                                            last edited by

                                            @staiff Hello Dear Staiff
                                            Could You please give me some information on how building hise from source code on Mac?
                                            i mean what version of xcode you're using ? looks like You've done a succesful installation with xcode .
                                            any quick guides much appreciated :)

                                            I'm on mojave 10.14.4

                                            Thanks mate <3

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