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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart
      last edited by

      Well, I am assuming stero channels across the entire codebase so not sure this is an easy fix.

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      • resonantR
        resonant @Christoph Hart
        last edited by resonant

        Isn't there any chance to make it possible? Because "Mono channel comptability" is very important for fx plugins. Yes HISE is primarily for sampler synths but if you could do it, HISE will be most powerful fx plugin creator on the market. (Of course, in my opinion it's been allready :)) @christoph-hart I mean it's a "must specification" for fx plugin designers.

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        • resonantR
          resonant @Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          @christoph-hart Could you make this property possible please?

          In this way we can make plugin effects for mono channels that is recorded mono (such as guitar amps, vocal processors, instrument processors...etc.)

          But for now there is only stereo channel support; that means user must feed mono channel into a stereo channel and after that user can apply HISE fx to stereo channel.

          Please make it possible man.... ✌ 👏

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          • Tod SlaughterT
            Tod Slaughter
            last edited by

            Can you not send the left channel to both outputs using a routing matrix?

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            • resonantR
              resonant
              last edited by

              @tod-slaughter
              No it doesn't work. Because the plugin has stereo input and output.

              When you want to instert a (HISE made) plugin on a mono track, your plugin won't be in the list. There are only mono compatible plugins on the list for mono tracks. (Pro Tools, Logic Pro X...etc)

              That means user can't put effects on your vocal takes, instrument records...etc directly. This is a very sad thing for an fx plugin.

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              • Tod SlaughterT
                Tod Slaughter
                last edited by

                Ok fair enough

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                • Dan KorneffD
                  Dan Korneff
                  last edited by

                  Is the new "Support Mono FX" feature supposed to work yet? I've tried and plugins are still only available as Stereo with this option selected.

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                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    Yes, but it only works for FX plugins, instruments always will be stereo. Which host did you test?

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                    • Dan KorneffD
                      Dan Korneff
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, I just exported with the delay effect in the master container. Tested on ProTools 12 and 2018.
                      I tried exporting on HISE standalone and HISE plugin.

                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                      • Christoph HartC
                        Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        Ah, I didn't check our old friend ProTools. Can you test it in another DAW, not that there's something generally wrong with it - I checked in Cubase and the JUCE plugin host - Ableton has no concept of mono channels AFAIK.

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                        • Dan KorneffD
                          Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                          last edited by

                          @christoph-hart protools and logic don't recognize the export on mono tracks. Cubase works fine

                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                          • Christoph HartC
                            Christoph Hart
                            last edited by

                            That is the exact reason why I bothered adding this because now I have to check this on every host for a really edge case use case of this framework.

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                            • Dan KorneffD
                              Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                              last edited by

                              @christoph-hart anything I can do to help?

                              Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                              • Christoph HartC
                                Christoph Hart
                                last edited by

                                If you have any other host sitting around on your hard drive, you can check it there so that I can verify and debug each host.

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                                • Dan KorneffD
                                  Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                                  last edited by

                                  @christoph-hart AU in Reaper shows up as 2in/2out plug, but will load on mono track. It'll also load on a mono channel in GarageBand.
                                  Seems like Logic and PT are the only hosts picky about channels.

                                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                  • orangeO
                                    orange @Dan Korneff
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustbro I don't know Studio One and Ableton Live has mono support; but did you tried on one of them too?

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                                    • Dan KorneffD
                                      Dan Korneff @orange
                                      last edited by

                                      @orange I don't have access to those.

                                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                      • d.healeyD
                                        d.healey @Dan Korneff
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                                        • Dan KorneffD
                                          Dan Korneff
                                          last edited by

                                          just tested studio one. It loads on mono and stereo tracks.

                                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                          • Dan KorneffD
                                            Dan Korneff
                                            last edited by Dan Korneff

                                            @Christoph-Hart could this be our issue?
                                            https://forum.juce.com/t/adding-mono-to-stereo-hides-mono-to-mono-in-protools/30266/2

                                            Also:

                                            JUCE now generates the AAX plug-in bus layout configuration id independent from
                                            the position as it appears in the Projucer’s legacy “Channel layout
                                            configuration” field.
                                            Possible Issues
                                            ProTools projects generated with a < 4.3.0 JUCE versions of your plug-in, may
                                            load the incorrect bus configuration when upgrading your plug-in to >= 4.3.0
                                            versions of JUCE.
                                            Workaround
                                            Implement AudioProcessor’s getAAXPluginIDForMainBusConfig callback to manually
                                            override which AAX plug-in id is associated to a specific bus layout of your
                                            plug-in. This workaround is only necessary if you have released your plug-in
                                            built with a version previous to JUCE 4.3.0.
                                            Rationale
                                            The new multi-bus API offers more features, flexibility and accuracy in
                                            specifying bus layouts which cannot be expressed by the Projucer’s legacy
                                            “Channel layout configuration” field. The native plug-in format backends use
                                            the new multi-bus callback APIs to negotiate channel layouts with the host -
                                            including the AAX plug-in ids assigned to specific bus layouts. With the
                                            callback API, there is no notion of an order in which the channel
                                            configurations appear - as was the case with the legacy “Channel layout
                                            configuration” field - and therefore cannot be used to generate the AAX plug-in
                                            id. To remain backward compatible to pre JUCE 4.0.0 plug-ins, JUCE does
                                            transparently convert the legacy “Channel layout configuration” field to the
                                            new callback based multi-bus API, but this does not take the order into account
                                            in which the channel configurations appear in the legacy “Channel layout
                                            configuration” field.
                                            

                                            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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