Mono versions of FX Plugins?

[orange]

Hello
Exported fx plugins are stereo. How can we make our plugins' mono versions?

[orange]

Does anyone knows how to do a mono channel compatible fx plugin with HISE?
I've tried channel routing but it didn't work :(

[d.healey]

@orange I'm not sure if it's possible, but why would you want it? Just put the same signal through both channels and then when you use the plugin in a mono context it will give the same result as if it is mono.

[orange]

@d-healey In some DAWs (such as Pro Tools, Logic Audio...etc) you can't insert a stereo out fx plugin on a mono channel directly.

Your plugin even will not be on the plugin list on a mono channel's insert slot, and you can't use your stereo out fx plugin. You must route this mono channel into a stereo bus, then after doing that you will be able to see & use your stereo out fx plugin. You can try it yourself with a HISE exported fx plugin in Logic Pro X...

That's why, fx plugin manufacturers allways include mono versions of their plugins as much as stereo versions. (Just look Waves, UAD..etc)

[d.healey]

@orange Aha I understand now, I don't use those programs so hadn't come across the issue.

[orange]

@Christoph-Hart Please help?

[Christoph Hart]

Well, I am assuming stero channels across the entire codebase so not sure this is an easy fix.

[resonant]

Isn't there any chance to make it possible? Because "Mono channel comptability" is very important for fx plugins. Yes HISE is primarily for sampler synths but if you could do it, HISE will be most powerful fx plugin creator on the market. (Of course, in my opinion it's been allready :)) @christoph-hart I mean it's a "must specification" for fx plugin designers.

[resonant]

@christoph-hart Could you make this property possible please?

In this way we can make plugin effects for mono channels that is recorded mono (such as guitar amps, vocal processors, instrument processors...etc.)

But for now there is only stereo channel support; that means user must feed mono channel into a stereo channel and after that user can apply HISE fx to stereo channel.

Please make it possible man....

[Tod Slaughter]

Can you not send the left channel to both outputs using a routing matrix?

[resonant]

@tod-slaughter
No it doesn't work. Because the plugin has stereo input and output.

When you want to instert a (HISE made) plugin on a mono track, your plugin won't be in the list. There are only mono compatible plugins on the list for mono tracks. (Pro Tools, Logic Pro X...etc)

That means user can't put effects on your vocal takes, instrument records...etc directly. This is a very sad thing for an fx plugin.

[Tod Slaughter]

Ok fair enough

[Dan Korneff]

Is the new "Support Mono FX" feature supposed to work yet? I've tried and plugins are still only available as Stereo with this option selected.

[Christoph Hart]

Yes, but it only works for FX plugins, instruments always will be stereo. Which host did you test?

[Dan Korneff]

Yeah, I just exported with the delay effect in the master container. Tested on ProTools 12 and 2018.
I tried exporting on HISE standalone and HISE plugin.

[Christoph Hart]

Ah, I didn't check our old friend ProTools. Can you test it in another DAW, not that there's something generally wrong with it - I checked in Cubase and the JUCE plugin host - Ableton has no concept of mono channels AFAIK.

[Dan Korneff]

@christoph-hart protools and logic don't recognize the export on mono tracks. Cubase works fine

[Christoph Hart]

That is the exact reason why I bothered adding this because now I have to check this on every host for a really edge case use case of this framework.

[Dan Korneff]

@christoph-hart anything I can do to help?

[Christoph Hart]

If you have any other host sitting around on your hard drive, you can check it there so that I can verify and debug each host.