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    • Tod SlaughterT
      Tod Slaughter
      last edited by

      Ok fair enough

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      • Dan KorneffD
        Dan Korneff
        last edited by

        Is the new "Support Mono FX" feature supposed to work yet? I've tried and plugins are still only available as Stereo with this option selected.

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        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart
          last edited by

          Yes, but it only works for FX plugins, instruments always will be stereo. Which host did you test?

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          • Dan KorneffD
            Dan Korneff
            last edited by

            Yeah, I just exported with the delay effect in the master container. Tested on ProTools 12 and 2018.
            I tried exporting on HISE standalone and HISE plugin.

            Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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            • Christoph HartC
              Christoph Hart
              last edited by

              Ah, I didn't check our old friend ProTools. Can you test it in another DAW, not that there's something generally wrong with it - I checked in Cubase and the JUCE plugin host - Ableton has no concept of mono channels AFAIK.

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              • Dan KorneffD
                Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                last edited by

                @christoph-hart protools and logic don't recognize the export on mono tracks. Cubase works fine

                Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                • Christoph HartC
                  Christoph Hart
                  last edited by

                  That is the exact reason why I bothered adding this because now I have to check this on every host for a really edge case use case of this framework.

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                  • Dan KorneffD
                    Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                    last edited by

                    @christoph-hart anything I can do to help?

                    Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                    • Christoph HartC
                      Christoph Hart
                      last edited by

                      If you have any other host sitting around on your hard drive, you can check it there so that I can verify and debug each host.

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                      • Dan KorneffD
                        Dan Korneff @Christoph Hart
                        last edited by

                        @christoph-hart AU in Reaper shows up as 2in/2out plug, but will load on mono track. It'll also load on a mono channel in GarageBand.
                        Seems like Logic and PT are the only hosts picky about channels.

                        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                        • orangeO
                          orange @Dan Korneff
                          last edited by

                          @dustbro I don't know Studio One and Ableton Live has mono support; but did you tried on one of them too?

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                          • Dan KorneffD
                            Dan Korneff @orange
                            last edited by

                            @orange I don't have access to those.

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @Dan Korneff
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                              @dustbro
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                              • Dan KorneffD
                                Dan Korneff
                                last edited by

                                just tested studio one. It loads on mono and stereo tracks.

                                Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                • Dan KorneffD
                                  Dan Korneff
                                  last edited by Dan Korneff

                                  @Christoph-Hart could this be our issue?
                                  https://forum.juce.com/t/adding-mono-to-stereo-hides-mono-to-mono-in-protools/30266/2

                                  Also:

                                  JUCE now generates the AAX plug-in bus layout configuration id independent from
                                  the position as it appears in the Projucer’s legacy “Channel layout
                                  configuration” field.
                                  Possible Issues
                                  ProTools projects generated with a < 4.3.0 JUCE versions of your plug-in, may
                                  load the incorrect bus configuration when upgrading your plug-in to >= 4.3.0
                                  versions of JUCE.
                                  Workaround
                                  Implement AudioProcessor’s getAAXPluginIDForMainBusConfig callback to manually
                                  override which AAX plug-in id is associated to a specific bus layout of your
                                  plug-in. This workaround is only necessary if you have released your plug-in
                                  built with a version previous to JUCE 4.3.0.
                                  Rationale
                                  The new multi-bus API offers more features, flexibility and accuracy in
                                  specifying bus layouts which cannot be expressed by the Projucer’s legacy
                                  “Channel layout configuration” field. The native plug-in format backends use
                                  the new multi-bus callback APIs to negotiate channel layouts with the host -
                                  including the AAX plug-in ids assigned to specific bus layouts. With the
                                  callback API, there is no notion of an order in which the channel
                                  configurations appear - as was the case with the legacy “Channel layout
                                  configuration” field - and therefore cannot be used to generate the AAX plug-in
                                  id. To remain backward compatible to pre JUCE 4.0.0 plug-ins, JUCE does
                                  transparently convert the legacy “Channel layout configuration” field to the
                                  new callback based multi-bus API, but this does not take the order into account
                                  in which the channel configurations appear in the legacy “Channel layout
                                  configuration” field.
                                  

                                  Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                  • Dan KorneffD
                                    Dan Korneff
                                    last edited by

                                    @Christoph-Hart giving this a friendly bump. Any luck on mono compatibility?

                                    Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                    • Dan KorneffD
                                      Dan Korneff @Dan Korneff
                                      last edited by

                                      @Christoph-Hart Any chance you can take a peek at this before your radio silence?

                                      Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                      • Dan KorneffD
                                        Dan Korneff
                                        last edited by

                                        Taking a look under the hood to try and understand what the Mono FX option is doing.
                                        What's the idea behind having this if + else statement being the same here?
                                        Screen Shot 2019-01-17 at 9.21.47 AM.png

                                        And what does line 98 and 99 do here?
                                        Screen Shot 2019-01-17 at 9.23.19 AM.png

                                        Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                        • Dan KorneffD
                                          Dan Korneff
                                          last edited by

                                          I created a 1 channel version of the HISE plugin... the exported AAX shows up as a mono plug in Protools!

                                          Dan Korneff - Producer / Mixer / Audio Nerd

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                                          • Christoph HartC
                                            Christoph Hart
                                            last edited by

                                            Great news. Does it work in Logic (or whatever DAW was also not working correctly)?

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