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    • Adam_GA
      Adam_G @audiolyf
      last edited by

      @audiolyf thanks for checking.

      @Christoph-Hart you have 3 separate users with 3 different daws all reporting the same issue. clearly this is a bug in Hise. could you at least acknowledge if youre looking into it or not? youve been silent on this one :downcast_face_with_sweat:

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      • trillbillyT
        trillbilly @Adam_G
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        @Adam_G I've had this happen in Ableton, FL as well as within HISE itself. Never figured out why or how it was happening.

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          audiolyf @Adam_G
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          @Adam_G I will try it out on FL Studio later too, turns out Pro Tools is just stuck note hell in general.

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          • LindonL
            Lindon @audiolyf
            last edited by

            @audiolyf said in Note Release - randomly gets stuck:

            @Adam_G I will try it out on FL Studio later too, turns out Pro Tools is just stuck note hell in general.

            Yeah I have users reporting this occasional problem - especially in ProFools...

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              audiolyf @Lindon
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              @Lindon Do you have anything in place at all to prevent it? It's completely unusable imo, any time you stop the transport in the middle of a note it hangs and the plugin must be bypassed/unbypassed. Read some rumor about Pro Tools not using note-offs and instead translating it to velocity = 0 but I have no idea if that's true, it doesn't seem to make any difference having a sample map blank at 0 velocity. It's driving me nuts.

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              • LindonL
                Lindon @audiolyf
                last edited by

                @audiolyf

                well this seems to help a bit...

                const var th = Engine.createTransportHandler();
                
                inline function onStop(isPlaying)
                {
                    if(!isPlaying)
                    {
                       Engine.allNotesOff();
                    }
                };
                th.setOnTransportChange(true, onStop);
                

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                • d.healeyD
                  d.healey @audiolyf
                  last edited by

                  @audiolyf said in Note Release - randomly gets stuck:

                  I will try it out on FL Studio later too, turns out Pro Tools is just stuck note hell in general.

                  Are you testing with the snippet and MIDI that @Adam_G posted?

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                  • Adam_GA
                    Adam_G @d.healey
                    last edited by

                    @d-healey the midi really doesnt matter because it happens with any midi i use. i have quite a bit.

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                    • Adam_GA
                      Adam_G @Lindon
                      last edited by Adam_G

                      @Lindon said in Note Release - randomly gets stuck:

                      @audiolyf

                      well this seems to help a bit...

                      const var th = Engine.createTransportHandler();
                      
                      inline function onStop(isPlaying)
                      {
                          if(!isPlaying)
                          {
                             Engine.allNotesOff();
                          }
                      };
                      th.setOnTransportChange(true, onStop);
                      

                      @Lindon added this to my oninit but still happening unfortunately. should it be somewhere else?

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                      • LindonL
                        Lindon @Adam_G
                        last edited by

                        @Adam_G nope thats where it goes - it will help for held notes when the transport is stopped only...

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                        • Adam_GA
                          Adam_G @Lindon
                          last edited by

                          @Lindon ah 10-4 thank you

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @Lindon
                            last edited by

                            @Lindon Does it need to be in an undeferred script?

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                            • LindonL
                              Lindon @d.healey
                              last edited by

                              @d-healey it is for me, but really the major issue here is these stuck notes in some DAWS (ProFools and FL Studio for a kick off..)

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                              • Adam_GA
                                Adam_G @Lindon
                                last edited by

                                @Lindon said in Note Release - randomly gets stuck:

                                @d-healey it is for me, but really the major issue here is these stuck notes in some DAWS (ProFools and FL Studio for a kick off..)

                                abelton and cubase as well apparently :face_with_head-bandage:

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                                • LindonL
                                  Lindon @Adam_G
                                  last edited by Lindon

                                  @Adam_G okay so here's a simple little trial - its trying to capture any

                                  Velocity == 0

                                  events and turn them into "real" note off events - try this with your midi file...

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                                  • Adam_GA
                                    Adam_G @Lindon
                                    last edited by

                                    @Lindon thanks for the help. just tested it in fl studio and its still happening :(

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                                    • LindonL
                                      Lindon @Adam_G
                                      last edited by

                                      @Adam_G well its not velocity == 0 events then...

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                                      • LindonL
                                        Lindon @Adam_G
                                        last edited by

                                        @Adam_G so when you say this:

                                        "periodically while the exported vst is playing back midi in the daw a single note will get stuck and play for an extended time with no release. it seems to mostly happen with c5 and f5 for whatever reason"

                                        this stuck note, it plays "forever"? i.e. it never gets a note off? Or it stops at some point? randomly? When another of the same note is triggered? when?

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                                        • Adam_GA
                                          Adam_G @Lindon
                                          last edited by Adam_G

                                          @Lindon it doesnt play forever. sounds like it holds it for a bar or so, maybe less but it seems to be the same amount of time each time and it plays over the other notes.

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                                          • Adam_GA
                                            Adam_G
                                            last edited by Adam_G

                                            tested the snippet (both my original and the one @Lindon provided) in bitwig and the issue doesnt occur. at least not during my testing. strange

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