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    • DanHD
      DanH @d.healey
      last edited by DanH

      @d-healey not in my project! Only effects in the master fx chain work

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      • DanHD
        DanH @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart so a send container seems to process the audio fine in an fx plugin, however it routes it back into the master fx chain (I think) and therefore creates a feedback loop as the only place you can send a signal from is the mater fx chain. Is there a way around this? I'm trying with different routing combinations but nothing is sticking so far...

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        • Christoph HartC
          Christoph Hart @DanH
          last edited by

          @DanH you can use 4 channels in the master fx, put the send effects in 1+2 and route the send container to 3/4 which you then sum to one stereo out in the master routing matrix but yeah I agree it‘s a bit weird.

          Also it will introduce a delay of one buffer for the send signal so this entire concept is a bit flawed for audio effects.

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          • DanHD
            DanH @Christoph Hart
            last edited by

            @Christoph-Hart @Christoph-Hart ok I’ll avoid it for now 😂. Did the damp knob ever get fixed in the scriptnode reverb module? I think it was doing the same job as width last time I checked.

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            • ForeverLiveF
              ForeverLive
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              Hello. I trying to experiment with send containers but when i exported FX plugin it's not working and not change sound in any way. What i doing wrong? I enabled that FX setting in Project settings, but still no result. Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 2.19.25 AM.png

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              • LindonL
                Lindon @ForeverLive
                last edited by

                @ForeverLive

                did you do this?

                @Christoph-Hart said in Do send containers work in effect plugins?:

                @d-healey I think you have to set the Enable Sound Generators FX flag in the project settings, but then it should process Send Containers and Global Modulation Containers.

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                • ForeverLiveF
                  ForeverLive @Lindon
                  last edited by

                  @Lindon yes, but it's not working. Processor usage indicates that it's processing the send effect but there is no sound of it. Sure, i did something wrong but no idea what :)

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                  • d.healeyD
                    d.healey @ForeverLive
                    last edited by

                    @ForeverLive You've set it to channel 2, why? Does it work in HISE? You can test by adding a sine wave gen (or other sound generator)

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                    • ForeverLiveF
                      ForeverLive @d.healey
                      last edited by

                      @d-healey i set it to channel 2 because it was not working with channel 0. And yes, in HISE everything is working well. Keep trying!

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                      • ForeverLiveF
                        ForeverLive @d.healey
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                        • ForeverLiveF
                          ForeverLive @d.healey
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                          @d-healey Ok i assume there is no other way to make a chain of effects with dry/wet control?

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                          • d.healeyD
                            d.healey @ForeverLive
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                            @ForeverLive said in Do send containers work in effect plugins?:

                            @d-healey Ok i assume there is no other way to make a chain of effects with dry/wet control?

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                            • ForeverLiveF
                              ForeverLive @d.healey
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                              @d-healey so send container not working because of a bug? I removed feedback loop with additional 2 channels but it's still not working in FX plugin. Just makes no sound no matter what settings i used.

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                              • d.healeyD
                                d.healey @ForeverLive
                                last edited by

                                @ForeverLive As far as I know they do work... post a snippet for us to test

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                                • ForeverLiveF
                                  ForeverLive @d.healey
                                  last edited by

                                  @d-healey i think i know what is happening. It's working but ableton ignore all the channels. Only first 2 makes sound, any other channels are just quiet. I tried send container, i tried 4 channel master with routing matrix on beginning and the end of a chain - it's all just hopeless. And what about the method you mentioned earlier (that link) - it's outdated and it seems like there is no way to send sound in a container. Not a send container, but regular container.

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                                  • ForeverLiveF
                                    ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey Basic setup - in HISE i can hear reverb, but when i export this - there is no reverb in ableton. So something is wrong but i don't understand what. I tried force stereo setting, optimizations, other things - nothing helps. It's just not working in ableton.

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                                    • d.healeyD
                                      d.healey @ForeverLive
                                      last edited by

                                      @ForeverLive said in Do send containers work in effect plugins?:

                                      It's just not working in ableton.

                                      Have you tried any other DAWs?

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                                      • DanHD
                                        DanH @ForeverLive
                                        last edited by

                                        @ForeverLive don't you need to fold channels 3+4 back into 1+2?

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                                        • ForeverLiveF
                                          ForeverLive @DanH
                                          last edited by

                                          @DanH but i did in master chain.

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                                          • ForeverLiveF
                                            ForeverLive @d.healey
                                            last edited by

                                            @d-healey I need it to work with ableton, because my live set is in that DAW.

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