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    • Christoph HartC
      Christoph Hart @d.healey
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      @d-healey I think you have to set the Enable Sound Generators FX flag in the project settings, but then it should process Send Containers and Global Modulation Containers.

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        d.healey @Christoph Hart
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        @Christoph-Hart Thanks, I'll give it a try

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          d.healey
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          I think I know the answer, but do normal container work in effects plugins?

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          • DanHD
            DanH @d.healey
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            @d-healey they work but don't process audio afaik

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            • d.healeyD
              d.healey @DanH
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              @DanH If I put an effect in the container will that effect affect the audio? :)

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                DanH @d.healey
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                @d-healey not in my project! Only effects in the master fx chain work

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                • DanHD
                  DanH @Christoph Hart
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                  @Christoph-Hart so a send container seems to process the audio fine in an fx plugin, however it routes it back into the master fx chain (I think) and therefore creates a feedback loop as the only place you can send a signal from is the mater fx chain. Is there a way around this? I'm trying with different routing combinations but nothing is sticking so far...

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                  • Christoph HartC
                    Christoph Hart @DanH
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                    @DanH you can use 4 channels in the master fx, put the send effects in 1+2 and route the send container to 3/4 which you then sum to one stereo out in the master routing matrix but yeah I agree it‘s a bit weird.

                    Also it will introduce a delay of one buffer for the send signal so this entire concept is a bit flawed for audio effects.

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                    • DanHD
                      DanH @Christoph Hart
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                      @Christoph-Hart @Christoph-Hart ok I’ll avoid it for now 😂. Did the damp knob ever get fixed in the scriptnode reverb module? I think it was doing the same job as width last time I checked.

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                      • ForeverLiveF
                        ForeverLive
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                        Hello. I trying to experiment with send containers but when i exported FX plugin it's not working and not change sound in any way. What i doing wrong? I enabled that FX setting in Project settings, but still no result. Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 2.19.25 AM.png

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                          Lindon @ForeverLive
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                          @ForeverLive

                          did you do this?

                          @Christoph-Hart said in Do send containers work in effect plugins?:

                          @d-healey I think you have to set the Enable Sound Generators FX flag in the project settings, but then it should process Send Containers and Global Modulation Containers.

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                            ForeverLive @Lindon
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                            @Lindon yes, but it's not working. Processor usage indicates that it's processing the send effect but there is no sound of it. Sure, i did something wrong but no idea what :)

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                            • d.healeyD
                              d.healey @ForeverLive
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                              @ForeverLive You've set it to channel 2, why? Does it work in HISE? You can test by adding a sine wave gen (or other sound generator)

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                              • ForeverLiveF
                                ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                @d-healey i set it to channel 2 because it was not working with channel 0. And yes, in HISE everything is working well. Keep trying!

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                                  ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                    ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                    @d-healey Ok i assume there is no other way to make a chain of effects with dry/wet control?

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                                      d.healey @ForeverLive
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                                      @ForeverLive said in Do send containers work in effect plugins?:

                                      @d-healey Ok i assume there is no other way to make a chain of effects with dry/wet control?

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                                      • ForeverLiveF
                                        ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                        @d-healey so send container not working because of a bug? I removed feedback loop with additional 2 channels but it's still not working in FX plugin. Just makes no sound no matter what settings i used.

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                                        • d.healeyD
                                          d.healey @ForeverLive
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                                          @ForeverLive As far as I know they do work... post a snippet for us to test

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                                          • ForeverLiveF
                                            ForeverLive @d.healey
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                                            @d-healey i think i know what is happening. It's working but ableton ignore all the channels. Only first 2 makes sound, any other channels are just quiet. I tried send container, i tried 4 channel master with routing matrix on beginning and the end of a chain - it's all just hopeless. And what about the method you mentioned earlier (that link) - it's outdated and it seems like there is no way to send sound in a container. Not a send container, but regular container.

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