Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols

[Dan Korneff]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

I created it myself, placed the VST in it and directed Live to this location. Still no luck.

Do you have Cubase installed?
I ran into a similar issue with a new W11 build. Installed HISE and Reaper, created a VST3 folder for plugs, and Reaper couldn't read them. After I installed Cubase, everything just started working :man_shrugging:
I didn't really investigate, but you might be experiencing something similar?

[trillbilly]

@d-healey It didn't seem to matter.

I was able to export VST2 and locate with Live no problem. VST3 still a no-go.

@dustbro No, Ive never used Cubase. Did you install a Demo version or do I need to purchase?

[Dan Korneff]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

id you install a Demo version or do I need to purchase?

I believe they have demos. You could also send me a test VST3 file to check on my rig as well.

[trillbilly]

@dustbro Ok, cool! Im downloading trial of Cubase Elements now. If that fails then we will press onward...

[d.healey]

@d-healey said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

until someone updates the compile template in HISE and makes a pull request.

Done - https://github.com/christophhart/HISE/pull/217

[trillbilly]

@dustbro Got it downloaded and installed. Now when I view the VST3 folder in Live I can see the Cubase VST3s (Halion, some drum machine, etc) but not my exported plugin.

So the file path is correct but still the exported plugin does not show.

[Lindon]

@trillbilly - where did you put your VST3?

@d-healey already pointed out you MUST MUST MUST put your VST in the correct VST3 folder - which is what Cubase is probably doing -

Read this (if you havent already):

Just a moment...

(helpcenter.steinberg.de)

[trillbilly]

@lindon Yes, I have them in the same folder as the Steinberg Plugins.

Now that Im looking, the file type is "Alias" rather than "VST3 Plugin" like Steinberg. Am I pulling VST from the correct location?

Binaries/MacOSX/build/Release

Or does Mac build and overwrite in the Binaries/Compiled directory?

[Lindon]

@trillbilly read the page David and I have pointed you to...but in brief - dont put your work in another vendors sub-folder, and an alias is not a file.

[trillbilly]

@lindon I also tried in the VST3 folder but now I realize about the Alias file type. I have removed everything from previous export and am exporting again with some minor settings changes.

Im assuming I pulled the wrong file from Binaries? Sorry, my brain is a little fried as of late.

EDIT: Thanks for providing the link again, I did check it out and ensured all is correct. It seems it is.

[ulrik]

@trillbilly I see you're on Mac, when I compile the plugins, both au and VST 3 will automatically be placed in the right folder in the "User Library" (your name), not in the All Users Library as it is in your picture

[trillbilly]

@ulrik You were spot on. I thought I was going crazy for a second. I guess I still may be.

The exported directory is:
Users/Your Mac/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST3

You may have to show your hidden folders in order to view it.

I just assumed exported VSTs would be in the HISE Folder, not on the Mac Drive.

Thanks @d-healey @dustbro @Lindon @ulrik fr the help, its super appreciated.

One las thing on the topic of Mac exports. For distribution purposes, is it wise to become a "Mac Developer" (I think its like $99/year) to ensure delivered files work properly? I don't intend to have an installer since its easy enough to just copy-paste & install samples.

[d.healey]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

is it wise to become a "Mac Developer"

Yes.

Also you shouldn't distribute VST2s unless you have an agreement with Steinberg, which they are no longer providing.

[trillbilly]

@d-healey I was reading on this recently. Noted. Thanks again.

[ulrik]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

is it wise to become a "Mac Developer"

Yes :)

[trillbilly]

@ulrik Great thanks. I was rummaging through Xcode and seen an area for your apple development profile. I think HISE has the same settings in the the preferences panel. Is this correct? If so, does it auto-fill from HISE to Xcode?

[Lindon]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

@ulrik Great thanks. I was rummaging through Xcode and seen an area for your apple development profile. I think HISE has the same settings in the the preferences panel. Is this correct? If so, does it auto-fill from HISE to Xcode?

they are not really the same thing.

You will need an Apple Developer account to create install certifiicates - but if you are not doing installers then this might not be a requirement - however you are going to have to codesign your plugins - so you will need an Apple Account (the sort of thing everyone has to use the Apple Store) to create a password for altool - which you will need as part of the codesigning process...

[trillbilly]

@lindon Ok, cool.
I created an Apple Account when downloading Xcode and such. I was reading that this is a "Free" Developer Account, which grants access to things such as Xcode. But in order to sell products I was under the impression I would need the Paid Apple Developer Profile in order to sign.

The codesigning process is my next step to learn. Not looking forward to it lol

[Lindon]

@trillbilly said in Mac Export - arm64 unidentified symbols:

@lindon Ok, cool.
I created an Apple Account when downloading Xcode and such. I was reading that this is a "Free" Developer Account, which grants access to things such as Xcode. But in order to sell products I was under the impression I would need the Paid Apple Developer Profile in order to sign.

The codesigning process is my next step to learn. Not looking forward to it lol

You might need a Apple Developer account to sel on the Apple store - if you can even get on there, but otherwise you dont need it to sell Mac based products elsewhere.

The codesigning is (now Apple have stopped moving the goal posts every 5 mins) trivially easy really...

[trillbilly]

@lindon Ok great, I do not intend to sell anything on the App Store or with installers (at least as of yet).

Im just starting to dig into it. It looks like something done via the Terminal (kind of how xcpretty was installed). Is this correct?

Ive skimmed some things saying you can have Xcode sign things automatically for you, have you tested this?